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cdscowboy March 16th, 2010 11:19 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Making progress is always nice. My boss has a wood wheel sorta like yours, only there's no dish to it at all.

purplemyth March 17th, 2010 05:26 AM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MIKE!:dancing:

Now, grab a green drink and get back to work :grin:

Palepainter March 17th, 2010 07:39 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Thanks Carlene. I actually started drinking Guiness about 3pm and decided it was good motivation to install adjusters into my beam. That was fun. If they made those the exact diameter as the beam, it would be so much simpler.
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop119.jpg

Daddy o's 67 March 17th, 2010 08:08 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
If I'm not mistaken I belive you have the adjusters mounted incorrectly. The flat plate part of the adjuster (with the jam nut welded to it) should be square to the bottom of the beam.

Palepainter March 17th, 2010 08:36 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
The directions I had stated that the pinch bolt inside the spring retainer should be at center with the stock location of the beams original pinch bolt. It would lower it from that position.

If I am incorrect, fortunately, it is just tacked. I will blame in on the Guiness. Love these instructions. Right now I have it set so that when the spring collar is at its normal height, it all the way against the set screw. Then It is adjusted to lower from there. But I can see where it would work the other way.....Ugh.. I see now that under weight, it needs to be the other way. But at the position you suggest it appears that it would be lower than stock to begin with, making it exceptionally low, which I do not want. I want stock height beam and then lower from there. I have seen guys advance the rotation so their car is really in the weeds.

Palepainter March 17th, 2010 09:03 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
I am having a difficult time finding that type of adjuster installed on the beam. Anyone have a shot of their beam with this type of mech on it?

Double D March 17th, 2010 09:19 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Palepainter (Post 452722)
I am having a difficult time finding that type of adjuster installed on the beam. Anyone have a shot of their beam with this type of mech on it?


They look to be upside down, the aluminum adjustment block goes to the top side of the tube.
Look in my photo album for a photo of them installed.:thumbsup:

Palepainter March 17th, 2010 09:26 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Thank!! I can see that now. Fortunately I didn't weld them all the way in. EHHEHEHE. Is the rotation relationship the same on a balljoint and linkpin beam? Now if I can find the relative position to weld them in at. I marked the center of the pinch on the old beam section. I will have to read the damn directions for the 50th time....

Palepainter March 17th, 2010 09:37 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Found one.http://images.thesamba.com/vw/classi...ix/2158692.jpg

Double D March 17th, 2010 09:41 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Palepainter (Post 452731)

Those adjustment slots look like they are longer thus giving more adjustment both ways...you mentioned you didn't want it really low so take your time and make sure that's what you want before it's all welded shut..... JMO

Palepainter March 17th, 2010 09:51 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Ya, I want it to ride at stock height and the lowered from there, I am not wanting to set it up to have a drop by rotating it before i weld it up.

Thanks!

cybernotchback March 18th, 2010 04:59 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Maybe with the adjusters lose you can reinstall the spring pack and trailing arms to get an idea of how you want it to sit. Then weld the adjusters in. I know that the trailing arms will not have any weight on them but it still might give you an idea. Maybe compare this one to a stock unladen beam? :Idunno:

Daddy o's 67 March 18th, 2010 05:57 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
For a reference, cutting and turning the stock grub screw a 1/2" will give you about 2-2 1/2" of drop or raise depending on which way you turn it.

Palepainter March 18th, 2010 06:47 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Thanks for the ideas guys.

GlowstickNinja March 18th, 2010 10:56 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Yeah I bought a new beam with adjuster factory installed. The way you have em welded is upside down. No worries though they just tacked in. My beam will be finished tomorrow I can take some pics if ya want reference shots...

Palepainter March 19th, 2010 07:20 AM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Thanks Glowstick,
I had some help from Double D. I have them all welded in now. I am presently disassembling the beam that came off car and assembling the pieces.

GlowstickNinja March 19th, 2010 04:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Palepainter (Post 453009)
Thanks Glowstick,
I had some help from Double D. I have them all welded in now. I am presently disassembling the beam that came off car and assembling the pieces.

No problem man. Get ready to get dirty. It is way easy to get it all apart but getting it back together is a bitch. Have some vice grips and some zip ties ready hahaha

Palepainter March 19th, 2010 06:48 PM

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I got things tore down and am fitting things back together prior to powdercoating everything. Weeee. I pulled the inner beam bearings and installed the urethane bushings. I put the arms in the blaster and cleaned them up. I will attack the other side tomorrow. I will separate the backing plates and brakes and get them ready too.
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop120.jpg

Palepainter March 21st, 2010 05:29 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
I spent most of today stripping down the old front end and getting everything ready for sandblasting and powder coating. Surprisingly, the brake components were in decent shape. I had to cut the headlight mounts off the beam that came on the car and then transfer the mount to the new beam. I assembled the entire beam loosely to make sure everything fit properly. Springs...etc. Then tore it apart.

Then I cut out the dash section and started with my dash modifications. This was fun after being up to my neck in grease earlier in the day. In fact, I just slid around the shop all morning.

I used the plasma cutter with cardboard templates to get the patterns transferred to the 18g metal. I also mounted my Scat Shifter and made Vrrrrooom Vroooom noises for at least 15 minutes prior to welding it all up. I needed to make sure I had the clearance I needed not to stuff my knuckles into the dash. All is well and started to weld it up. Tomorrow eve, I will finish up the side sections and then do some more measuring and filler panels for the dash.

http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop121.jpg
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop122.jpg
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop123.jpg
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop124.jpg
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop125.jpg
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop126.jpg
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop127.jpg

purplemyth March 21st, 2010 05:47 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Wow Mike, you been a busy guy! :thumbsup:
Gittin er dun !

(is it just me or do your pics all run off the screen? :Idunno:)

Palepainter March 21st, 2010 05:57 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
They are only 800x600 Carlene. I didn't think they would be a prob that size. I can make them smaller in the future if it is an issue. I have my monitor set for hi res.

purplemyth March 21st, 2010 06:37 PM

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no, its not the size, you have all the links side by side lol!

I fix~

Palepainter March 21st, 2010 06:39 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Dunno how the hell I did that. I will be sure to double check it next time. Thanks for you assistance there.

purplemyth March 21st, 2010 06:45 PM

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nah, no problem , I see links only, but dbl check in another window, I think ya was just in a hurry and forgot to hit space lol!

800x600 is good too :thumbsup:

the dash looking good!
so is it dun yet? :grin:

Palepainter March 22nd, 2010 06:37 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
I got the very first part of my car painted tonight. More vrooom vroom noises to follow. HEHEHe. It is almost as cool as my old Empi wheel I had in my Notch. I like it. I am painting the horn and column spacer too. In fact. Anything that is black on the car will be gloss, and the drab green will be a Semi or Flat sheen.

I finished up the top part of the dash this eve. I am going to tie it in on the lower section and then make the arrangement for the gauges. Very happy with it so far. The plasma cutter made it happen really fast.

http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop128.jpg
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop129.jpg
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop130.jpg
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop131.jpg


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