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freetroy December 25th, 2007 06:13 PM

my kawasaki beetle project
 
hi guys its been a while since i last posted a thread well my project is on hold for a while but hopeing to get some work done spring well here is an idea of what it will look like
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...roy/dsfdff.jpg

squareback_fiend December 25th, 2007 09:01 PM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
mini rail with bug body why not use a arms instead of a swing arm

mkparker December 26th, 2007 06:33 AM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
Looks like a cool project. Be sure and do everything you can to lighten it up! Bike motors don't like pushing around a lot of weight.
Check out Graham1728's thread if ya haven't yet.

RTVW

freetroy December 26th, 2007 08:03 PM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
i know i have to lose a lot of weight my goal is around 800 lbs it will have a custom made frame http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/403535.jpg

bswilly December 26th, 2007 09:01 PM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
Should be a cool project.You could use a hole saw and drill anything un nessecary out on the inside to lose weight.A drag racer in my club took about 50 pounds out of his this way.

freetroy December 27th, 2007 12:22 AM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
well this is the idea i had may i mind you this picture is from a web site i found called http://www.rorty-design.com/content/beetle.htm http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1..._chassis01.jpg it kind of same kind of frame i want to build with my own toutch

bigguy December 27th, 2007 03:25 AM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
let me know if you need those plans for that frame. i may know someone that has them.:smile:

Steve White December 27th, 2007 04:09 AM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
IMO going to even get anywhere around 800lbs using a actual vw body. I was on a late model race team for several years and our car which had an aluminum skin, floor and seat weighed approx 2000 lbs. A 2007 Ninja zx-14 wieghs over 400 lbs. Surprisenly a 1967 beetle weighed +/- 1800 lbs which is less then I would have guessed but still.

A t-Rex weighs 0ver 900lbs
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...pagnaT-Rex.jpg

freetroy December 27th, 2007 05:07 AM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigguy (Post 285110)
let me know if you need those plans for that frame. i may know someone that has them.:smile:

if you could i would be more then greatfull for thouse plans they will come in handy thanks

mkparker December 27th, 2007 05:14 AM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
I also think 800 pounds is "very" optimistic. But, it'll still be a fun building/learning experience. I think a Beetle pan would weigh less than the Rorty design. I like the Rorty design really well, it just doesn't seem to be a weight saving plan.

freetroy December 27th, 2007 05:40 AM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
im going to gut the body like all four wheel wells will be gone the front and rear fire wall will be gone i think that a tube frame would be lite weight

38Chevy454 December 27th, 2007 08:39 AM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
I have a more basic question: why?

What is the point to use a motorcycle engine? If you want a real lightweight performance car, there is still no reason to use such a small engine, relative to the weight. Use a VW engine that is built up and combine with serious weight reduction.

Maybe I am missing something here :Idunno::Idunno:

mkparker December 27th, 2007 10:58 AM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
There are a lot of BECs (Bike engine cars) these days. A stock bike engine puts out lots of HP, granted not much torque, and they come with cool sequential shift tranny. I don't think one in a full size VW is a great idea, but who am I to say. At least he has a vision and is goin' for it. I'll post my favorite BEC pic now...two yammy R1s in a Mini. Zoom Zoom!

http://www.mkparker.com/vw/BEC_MINI_rear.jpeg

Steve White December 27th, 2007 01:34 PM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
i agree there are some pretty cool bike powered cars and some bike motors will make in the 200 hp range farily dependably. Squat for torque though so weight is a huge issue.

here is a smart car with a Hayabusa engine. It does 13.5 in the 1/4 but a Hayabusa puts out 175hp stock and that Smart car was stripped down hardcore to save weight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPQIi...eature=related

gravguy December 27th, 2007 02:53 PM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
well while watching that vid i noticed this. much heavier and still goes like >>>...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMqnG...eature=related

trikertroy December 27th, 2007 06:37 PM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
812lbs..........

vintage-raze December 27th, 2007 06:57 PM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gravguy (Post 285215)
well while watching that vid i noticed this. much heavier and still goes like >>>...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMqnG...eature=related

I may be wrong, but I think you were wanting to post this one??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xdks...eature=related

But I've been wrong once before:hmm:



Kick ass by the way:thumbsup:

Steve White December 27th, 2007 07:14 PM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
thats a cool video but don't expect to see a vw trike do that :)

Thats a hayabusa turbo. It put out 175HP stock and some guys have gotten 500HP+ out of those motors. A built Hayabusa engine costs a small fortune. If you can afford a Hayabusa turbo forget the vw rod and start looking for a T-Rex with a toasted engine. A stock T-rex can already do what no production vehicle under a 1/4 mil can do which is pull well over a G in the corners and do mid 13's in the 1/4. Stuff a Hayabusa turbo in it and it would be untouchable on the street.

it might not be a rod but it would give you wood every time!

freetroy December 27th, 2007 08:15 PM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
here are some pics of what i have so far
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...s/100_0849.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...s/100_0850.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...s/100_0851.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...s/100_0853.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...s/100_0855.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...s/100_0852.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...s/100_0854.jpg
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...s/100_0857.jpg

72beetle December 27th, 2007 08:38 PM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
You might not agree but, I think it would be cool if you made a shortie Bug, and gutted it out with a roll cage and 1 driver seat, an put your motorcycle motor in.Im guessing youll lighten it up alot then, an be neat.


or...go a little bit bigger than the kid vrod and put a hyabusa motor in :funny: that would be crazy though.

freetroy December 27th, 2007 11:08 PM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
my goal is to have hayabusa motor but i think once i get it all done

freetroy December 28th, 2007 09:05 PM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...oy/1355674.jpg
this is what i want for my beetle frame

squareback_fiend December 29th, 2007 12:43 AM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
it would be kooler if it had a vincent motor

mkparker December 29th, 2007 05:17 AM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
That would be an incredible waste of a Vincent motor!!

Ray-Dean December 29th, 2007 05:20 AM

Re: my kawasaki beetle project
 
Not meening to hijack, but while watching the clips above, I noticed this.....

Hayabusa kart

Some people got more balls than brains. :blink:


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