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briancustoms January 25th, 2010 08:20 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Those military tires would help carry the theme well, but I also love bigs and littles on fenderless rides. IMHO.

Palepainter January 25th, 2010 08:23 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Me too. Love that look of the talls in the rear. It would be easier to emphasize that if I could find widened rims. They want an arm and a leg to widen the rims here locally.

Unfortunately, I can only find the military style tires in one size for the 15 in rim. I will have to do some mockups to see how it will look before I commit. Other wise its gonna look half assed when i get the extension on and have the same smalls on all the rims.

Unkl Ian January 25th, 2010 08:25 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Can you switch to 16" wheels? They have a wider range of sizes, from 600 to 900.

Unkl Ian January 25th, 2010 08:26 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Miller Tire has 16" inch hoops in 3 widths.
http://www.millertire.com/wheel_catalog.asp?class=99

Palepainter January 25th, 2010 08:32 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Do you think those hoops would work with VW center section? That is not a bad idea if it would work.

Unkl Ian January 25th, 2010 08:35 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Measure the VW hoops, ID and OD.

All those 16" hoops have the same 13.5" dia.

Unkl Ian January 25th, 2010 08:38 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Same size tires front and rear sounds practical, like stock,
but bigger/taller on back looks better especially fenderless.

Unkl Ian January 25th, 2010 08:56 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Sometimes it is easier to measure the circumference, instead of diameter.

13.5" dia -> 42.525" circumference.

Palepainter January 25th, 2010 09:12 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
I will do that. Thanks for the links!

Palepainter January 26th, 2010 06:39 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Got the passenger side window frame tacked in as well as the rest of the sail panel. I will grind and finish welding tomorrow. Then I am going to pull the supports inside so I can get to the inner areas that need welding.http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop42.jpghttp://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop43.jpg

Palepainter January 27th, 2010 06:49 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
First off,
Let me throw out some props for Doug and his new BJ/BJ 8" extension. It showed up today. Better than I expected, not that I didn't expect great quality, but was extremely happy with the details and clean welds. You rock dude, and I wish you the best with your business. If you need anything I can offer you for services, just let me know.

So I got it, it was a little banged up on one of the corners from the gorillas in the shipping dept. Easily beat back into place. I sized up the hardware I would need to install and hit the local hardware store. For anyone getting into one of Doug's extenders, here is the list of hardware needed to install,

1. (4) 4 in 1/2 inch grade 8 bolts.
2. (8) Thick grade 8 washers.
3. (4) Split lock washers.
4. (4) Grade 8 nuts.
5. You will reuse the stock bolts that mount the beam to the frame head. Use these bolts to attach the extender.

I will be researching the U joints and the steering extension. I am working on a Rack and Pinion system that should clean things up a bit under the hood.

My wife gave me a hand this eve dropping the beam and resetting it on the new extension. She is a good sport. Now I can get the sheetmetal and head light fabrication done up front. I believe I will be going with dropped spindles on the front to get it down a bit more. I am looking for a nice rake to the stance.

Again,

THANKS DOUG!!! I WILL BE TALKING TO YOU SOON ABOUT SOME MORE STUFF!!!
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop44.jpghttp://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop45.jpghttp://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop47.jpghttp://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop46.jpg

Palepainter January 30th, 2010 07:28 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Made decision on my rear tires. I went with 225/75/15's in the rear comfortably on 5.5 rims. It sure helped a lot with the rake and stance of the car. Now I just need to do some rust repair in the lowers and then adjust the spring plates a notch. I am debating on the adjustable beam or the dropped spindles. What have you guys had the most success with?

Here is how it looks with the tire change.
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop48.jpg

Palepainter January 30th, 2010 07:32 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
As soon as I get the majority of the structural work done I will take the body off the pan and get busy with the suspension and drive train. I am going to mock it up with a motor first to finalize the exhaust and the rear apron section. Not sure yet on the exhaust, but am going to try a few things lying around here. I may even make my own system. I have a nice collector here and have thought about a stinger out the back with a spark arrestor. So many decisions. I am also measuring for the 6 point cage and getting that bent in the very near future. That will stiffen everything up a bit.

Palepainter January 31st, 2010 06:07 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
So, this weekend I sat in my booth at a motorcycle show in Denver. Each time I was able to get away, I ran pas the Custom Chrome booth and eyed up some goodies. A friend of mine is a sales rep for them, so I had him hold some items till the end of the show. I can not tell you what I paid for them but let's just say dealer cost. I am going to make military style black out shields for the lenses after I install H4's.

I also found a really trick item off a heritage softail front fender that will make a great 3rd brake light. I have a lot of fun stuff to work on this week. Very excited to make some unique progress, I will be going out on a limb design wise with a few ideas. But we will see. Anyways, if anyone cares, today's score.

I am done with the chop and will soon permanently mount the rag top also. I am going to bounce around now to maintain a certain creative involvement besides a whole bunch of welding and grinding.

http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop49.jpg

Palepainter January 31st, 2010 06:14 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
I have also been using the search engine for lowering the rear on swingaxle but not coming up with anything specific. Particularly with pictures or the plate and the axle tube details. Does anyone have any good tech articles from any place regarding dropping the rear one spline on the outside?

bigguy January 31st, 2010 06:16 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Same as irs for lowering but just swing axle.

purplemyth February 1st, 2010 05:00 AM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
here ya go Mike, from the tech bin~
http://www.volksrods.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15982
just check the link in the first post :)

Palepainter February 1st, 2010 07:11 AM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Thank you Carlene!!

Palepainter February 1st, 2010 07:13 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
So this evening I made up some brackets for the headlights and got them welded to the beam. I went to Lowes to pick up some metal stock that I didn't have around. I didn't realize how much steel was these days. I will be more resourceful with the scraps I have lying around. I positioned the lights in front of the shock tower to break up the mass of them. I am going to be doing some sheetmetal work to the beam to clean it up as well. Here are a few shots of the lights.
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop50.jpg http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop51.jpg

Then I had an idea and kind of wanted to see how it would look. I would be sectioning the bumper. Basically only using the outside 16 inches or so. The overriders and may look kind of cool all painted to match the rest of the body. Anyways, I held up the bumper and wanted to get an idea.
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop52.jpg
And lastly, this was the final project for the evening just cleared it after finishing the art during the day.
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop53.jpg

Palepainter February 2nd, 2010 03:43 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Working up mock up for a front bumper. Here is what I have. Opinions?
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop54.jpghttp://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop55.jpg

Palepainter February 2nd, 2010 03:50 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
To bore you even further, here is a better shot of the height I like.http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop56.jpg

Unkl Ian February 2nd, 2010 03:57 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
The bumper idea is very cool. Are you going to lower the whole car ?

hotrodgary February 2nd, 2010 04:05 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
I like the first one.

what about one bumperette in the middle?

-Gary

purplemyth February 2nd, 2010 04:13 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
http://www.rollingchrome.com/vw/chop56.jpg I like this one.

Alien right? Cool! just watched that series friday.

Palepainter February 2nd, 2010 04:32 PM

Re: My concept for the general Vee
 
Ya Unkl,
I am going to drop the entire car. Spindles in the front and one outer spline in the rear. I don't want excessive camber and don't mind a bit of excessive rake.

Gary,
I had played with the single bumperette, but the two looked more menacing IMO. More of a Dracula feel. HAHAHA.

Carlene,
I like that one also, I will play with the height on Pshop to see where it will go. I am going to get rid of the hand on the lid too. Gotta love the aliens.
Most of my work these days is on guitars.

Thanks for the input guys. Glad to get opinions on the little bumper.

Oh ya, I am going to make the signals apart of the bumperette.


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