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mkparker February 8th, 2008 01:41 PM

3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
OK, after all the hijacks and OT posts, I thought we should have a 3 wheeler thread where we can talk about our other obsession.

This is the latest I've seen.
http://thekneeslider.com/images/pagsta3wheeler.jpg

More info, don't copy the design you might get "sewed". :funny:

Anybody else?

carcentric February 8th, 2008 02:43 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
I think I referred to that one on the New Shit thread - this one's local and much slicker:
http://www.tiltingmotorworks.com/images/Img12.gif
http://www.tiltingmotorworks.com/

Both tilt when cornering!
:hello:

gravguy February 8th, 2008 02:46 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
i guess if im going to chime in im going to throw a vw into the discussion
http://homepage.mac.com/akirem/.cv/a...mb_273_205.jpgone of several vw designs that have come out this is one vw did using the drive train of a golf it looks allot like the passat form the early 90s but this design came out in 86

carcentric February 8th, 2008 02:55 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
Well, if you want a VW-based 2F1R trike, here's my notion:
http://www.carcentric.com/Dragonfly.jpg

Type 1 engine/trans
Rabbit spindles (FWD)
Gazelle (kit car) fenders
:thumbsup:

gravguy February 8th, 2008 03:09 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carcentric (Post 294758)
Well, if you want a VW-based 2F1R trike, here's my notion:
http://www.carcentric.com/Dragonfly.jpg

Type 1 engine/trans
Rabbit spindles (FWD)
Gazelle (kit car) fenders
:thumbsup:

if you flip the ring and pinion on the trans you will have the engine out front ( in the cooling air) and the shifter will be a short shift rod but it would lay within the drivers reach without any wild linkages it would be right between your leg area with a universal on the shift rod it could be placed like a jockey shift h idea for the front suspension would be golf jetta you could just pick the parts right off the shelf and still ahve 13 inch rabbit wheels

carcentric February 8th, 2008 03:37 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gravguy (Post 294761)
if you flip the ring and pinion on the trans you will have the engine out front ( in the cooling air) and the shifter will be a short shift rod . . .

I know, but I don't want the engine out in front of the fenders (without me on it, there'd be no counter-weight behind the front wheels sufficient to keep the rear end on the ground). Besides, the trans out front reminds me of an old Bentley supercharger . . . .
:funny:

If I build it, I plan on using a cable shifter (designed for a mid-engine dune buggy) to avoid tricky linkage designs.

I borrowed ideas heavily from the project Steve0620 is building.
:bow:

JoeBoy February 8th, 2008 03:50 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
I wouldn't ride the one that Michael(mkparker)posted. Those (shock towers) are just welded to a small plate on the lower control arm without any gussets. What's going to happen when you are doing 70 mph down the road and that weld snaps? Also the ball joints look over extended when it is leaned over. The seller needs to be worried about getting "sewed" not sueing someone. Looks like anybody could hack the front off of a 4wheel ATV and make the same thing. Thats all he did.

Unkl Ian February 8th, 2008 04:46 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
His video bills this thing as the worlds first tilting reverse trike,but there is at least one Yahoo group filled with them.

I think a link was posted in an earlier tilting 3 wheeler thread here.





Quote:

Originally Posted by mkparker (Post 294742)
OK, after all the hijacks and OT posts, I thought we should have a 3 wheeler thread where we can talk about our other obsession.

This is the latest I've seen.
http://thekneeslider.com/images/pagsta3wheeler.jpg

More info, don't copy the design you might get "sewed". :funny:

Anybody else?


Unkl Ian February 8th, 2008 05:11 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
It definitely needs gussets on the bottom of those vertical tubes,
and something to limit travel,so the tubes don't come in contact with a A-arms.

http://i15.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/d7/34/ad2e_3.JPG

road_dog February 8th, 2008 06:47 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carcentric (Post 294754)
I think I referred to that one on the New Shit thread - this one's local and much slicker:
http://www.tiltingmotorworks.com/images/Img12.gif
http://www.tiltingmotorworks.com/

Both tilt when cornering!
:hello:



Hell, that is a V-MAX!.........Whoever built that Damn thing must have a Death Wish. :ohmy:

Unkl Ian February 8th, 2008 06:55 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkl Ian (Post 294784)
His video bills this thing as the worlds first tilting reverse trike,but there is at least one Yahoo group filled with them.


http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/tilting/

Ray Smith February 8th, 2008 08:05 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by road_dog (Post 294811)
Hell, that is a V-MAX!.........Whoever built that Damn thing must have a Death Wish. :ohmy:

Here is another,"Death Wish" I encountered at a restaurant in Indiana awhile back.The fenders and tank are carbon fibre,the suspension is trailing link,and it had a BBS wheel on the sidehack.Built in Germany for Autobahn running.RIGHT!

The other,"thing" is a custom bodied glass trike.The rear bulkhaed has the rear half of a 750 Honda-matic bolted to it.A 12v starter motor is used to reverse it.Basically the starter has a rubber,"tire" in place of the drive and it is levered into position to rub against the tire to back up.Kind of MM but is was built 25 years ago.

gravguy February 8th, 2008 08:18 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
the first one with the trailing link is actulay the best way to have a suspension on a sidecar the trailing link doesnt have the same issues of high speed wabbles and it doesnt get the shakes on deceleration the way standard forks do

the second thing is a tri magnum designed by RQ Riley http://www.rqriley.com/tri-mag.html
the tri magnum uses a ladder style frame and a vw front beam
http://www.rqriley.com/imagespln/tmc3.jpg

who is also responsibile for allot of vw creations since the 60s
they also designed enclosed 1F2R
http://www.rqriley.com/imagespln/trimut.jpg

gravguy February 8th, 2008 08:27 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carcentric (Post 294758)
Well, if you want a VW-based 2F1R trike, here's my notion:
http://www.carcentric.com/Dragonfly.jpg

Type 1 engine/trans
Rabbit spindles (FWD)
Gazelle (kit car) fenders
:thumbsup:

you said it would be nose heavy they have been bilding this in europe for years and i tried to buy the company a few years ago ( it was for sale)
http://www.blackjackzero.com/picture...eadtonneau.jpg

mkparker February 8th, 2008 08:54 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
The one I posted is an ugly piece of poop IMO. With a 110cc Chinese motor, I don't think you'd have to worry about going 70 mph down the freeway though.

Hopefully we can put various 3 wheel ideas here in one place. I don't get to the new sh*t thread much.

Here is a factory Harley Version (patent pending)
http://thekneeslider.com/images/harleytrike1.jpg

More info here.

Keep 'em comin'!

carcentric February 8th, 2008 11:10 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
In this state (WA), a trike is expected to have a handlebar (not a steering wheel), and you sit astride the vehicle (not inside it). One of the trickiest parts to design is a handlebar-to-front-wheels linkage that is a) not twitchy in the straight ahead position, but b) can turn fairly sharply at slow speeds so the turning circle isn't huge.

Crack Monkey's volksquad uses what looks like a ATV linkage that would be very sensitive at all speeds . . . hence the addition of a steering stabilizer.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...lksquad078.jpg

If there's a simple, non-geared linkage that's a little dead in the center and progressively more responsive as you approach the L/R locks, I'd like to see it.
:Idunno:

Nick February 9th, 2008 12:32 AM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
http://www.maxmatic.com/ttw_moto.htm
web page with some cool tilting trikes history/info, even some from the mid 1940's
http://www.maxmatic.com/Graphics/neumann.jpg

I have a few VW based trikes on my site gallery too (search keyword "trike"). split window reverse trike (pict taken in 1954):
http://www.runtrod.com/gallery/d/229...rike_split.jpg

This one's my fav:
http://www.runtrod.com/gallery/d/22914-2/TRIKE.jpg

this one's definitely different
http://www.runtrod.com/gallery/d/22916-2/trike5.jpg

Also some idiot here bought this trike home earlier:
http://www.runtrod.com/gallery/d/64571-1/1-original.jpg

Unkl Ian February 9th, 2008 12:39 AM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
http://www.runtrod.com/gallery/d/22916-2/trike5.jpg

Is that Billy Idol,or Russel Mitchel,in the background ?

Not nearly as cool as the trike Ron Finch built.

Redman76 February 9th, 2008 02:51 AM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
It doesnt really need to be said but I would make this my daily driver in a heart beat!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnNKT...eature=related

Unkl Ian February 9th, 2008 10:10 AM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
Ever wonder why dogs get run over by cars ?

gravguy February 9th, 2008 10:11 AM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
talk about UNstable what allot of fun to take around a farm road but i dont know how well it would do on the daily commute

Unkl Ian February 9th, 2008 10:13 AM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkl Ian (Post 294854)

Not nearly as cool as the trike Ron Finch built.

http://www.finchscustoms.com/trilogy.gif

3 cyl Triumph power.

TaylorMutts February 9th, 2008 11:57 AM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this one yet:

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/01/04/v...press-release/

carcentric February 9th, 2008 01:08 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TaylorMutts (Post 294916)
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this one yet:

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/01/04/v...press-release/

It's not really something we could build ourselves . . . .
:Idunno:

TaylorMutts February 9th, 2008 02:06 PM

Re: 3 wheeled contraptions and discussion
 
I know, but it is VW related. :wink:


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