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May 12th, 2012, 06:06 AM
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Tunnel Question
Re:: where to cut when replacing framehead
Could someone PLEASE tell me where the tunnel ends in feference to the framehead, I think I just made a really stupid newbie mistake.
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May 12th, 2012, 07:33 AM
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Re: Tunnel Question
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Originally Posted by jdinvt
Could someone PLEASE tell me where the tunnel ends in feference to the framehead, I think I just made a really stupid newbie mistake.
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First get all the black tar looking stuff off, then you should be able to see where it's welded together
If you have the body off it's much easier, and when it's cold the the stuff gets brittle and it chips off easily, it's still a lotta work, but if it's hot out it's soft and a PITA
That's more of a H.U.B.S mistake ( Head Up the Butt Syndrome       : funny:)
Just make sure when you try to fix your mistake that you keep safety in mind
Best I can say is, take lots a pictures showing what you did, explaining in detail what you were thinking
Ron
Last edited by metalmaster1766; May 12th, 2012 at 07:46 AM.
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May 12th, 2012, 07:37 AM
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moody witch
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Re: Tunnel Question
Just post a pic of what you've done and some one will tell you if you did...........
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May 12th, 2012, 08:36 AM
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Re: Tunnel Question
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Originally Posted by purplemyth
Just post a pic of what you've done and some one will tell you if you did...........
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This is why I think I fucked up....... It looks like I cut the tunnel off when I cut the framehead off so I was trying to get that center peice out of the middle of the framehead but after hitting my hand 4 times with a sledge hammer I decided to call it quits before I break my hand. I plan on replaceing the frame brace too and the pans but so im not sure if im going about it the right way, I did take measurments before I started to cut by the way.
Last edited by jdinvt; July 18th, 2012 at 08:17 AM.
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May 12th, 2012, 08:38 AM
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Re: Tunnel Question
Yep, you cut it off... Luckily the new framehead should weld right up to it, along with a new Napoleon hat (front cross firewall brace).
I make jigs for all kinds of stuff. Is it BJ or LP? Let me know and I'll see what dimensions I have that you can use to get things square again.
Jeff
Last edited by JiI; May 12th, 2012 at 08:41 AM.
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May 12th, 2012, 08:53 AM
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Re: Tunnel Question
Piss shit, thats what I thought. It is BJ and that would be tottaly awsome if you could help me out with this, thanks
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May 12th, 2012, 09:26 AM
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Re: Tunnel Question
I'll try and draw you up a jig.
Jeff
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May 12th, 2012, 02:43 PM
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Re: Tunnel Question
,Thanks very much for showing me where. I just went out and gave it the wire wheel but it is welded all the top and sides and whats really confuseing me I guess are all the overlapping parts with welds on them so that is why im not sure. Should I just cut it off in front of the weld and grind the rest off or leave what I have for extra strength and fit new one over whats there. Sorry for all this but I know this is VERY critical and would like to just do this part once.
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May 12th, 2012, 02:46 PM
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Re: Tunnel Question
Pics of confussion I guess.
Last edited by jdinvt; June 19th, 2012 at 07:09 AM.
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May 12th, 2012, 04:41 PM
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Re: Tunnel Question
You should still be okay, outlined in red is original material. you can try to find the spot welds or grind off what is there but be sure not to grind into the tunnel material underneath.
here is what it looks like from the VW factory....what you have has been butchered by a P/O.
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May 22nd, 2012, 06:50 AM
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Re: Tunnel Question
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Originally Posted by Double D
You should still be okay, outlined in red is original material. you can try to find the spot welds or grind off what is there but be sure not to grind into the tunnel material underneath.
here is what it looks like from the VW factory....what you have has been butchered by a P/O.

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I found a company that sells the front tunnel so I was wondering if I clean up that first weld on the front side would I be able to fit the new tunnel over whats left of the old one so I get the full lenght back or will it screw everything else up when I weld the framehead back on?
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May 22nd, 2012, 08:05 AM
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Re: Tunnel Question
Here is you best option..... Samba Classifieds...... search for
"frame head" Nothing fits like an original!
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifie...php?id=1234034
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May 12th, 2012, 04:47 PM
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Re: Tunnel Question
Alright, now I can see more clearly, thanks alot for clearing it up for me, back to the grind tomorrow then. :-)
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May 22nd, 2012, 08:53 AM
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Re: Tunnel Question
Can you not locate a complete decent pan up there? They are quite cheap down here and it would save you a ton of work!
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May 22nd, 2012, 10:04 AM
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Re: Tunnel Question
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Originally Posted by mkparker
Can you not locate a complete decent pan up there? They are quite cheap down here and it would save you a ton of work!
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Wish I could but this is the RUST CAPITOL of the states.
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May 22nd, 2012, 08:47 PM
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Re: Tunnel Question
Illinois is the Emperor of the world! We hammer and weld rust!
Jeff
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May 23rd, 2012, 02:45 AM
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Re: Tunnel Question
Not sure where you're located in VT. but check with Poginy's European autoworks in coventry, ask for chris. I picked up my 64 there and he had quite a few other aircooled vw's around too. You'd likely have to strip one for the pan... but i'm sure you could get one for a decent price. Make sure you ask to see his beetle project if you go.... it's gorgeous.
Last edited by a4maine; May 23rd, 2012 at 02:49 AM.
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May 23rd, 2012, 04:58 AM
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made some progress yesterday
I cleaned up the front channel, cut the floors out ant removed the motor but didnt take the pic with the motor gone yet.
Last edited by jdinvt; June 19th, 2012 at 07:09 AM.
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May 23rd, 2012, 08:46 AM
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So Cal imports
I just placed my order for a complete framehead and firewall crossmember, cant wait for it to arrive so I can start getting it back together. Has anyone on here ever ordered from them and if so, what kind of expeirence did you have?
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May 23rd, 2012, 09:16 AM
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Re: So Cal imports
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May 23rd, 2012, 09:28 AM
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Re: So Cal imports
The customer service REALLY sucked as I had to give the lazy fuck the part numbers for what I needed, but whatever.
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May 23rd, 2012, 09:28 AM
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moody witch
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Re: So Cal imports
I have a question~ how many threads are you gonna start about this framehead & tunnel bit?
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May 23rd, 2012, 09:31 AM
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moody witch
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Re: So Cal imports
So you just answered your own question~ yay.
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May 23rd, 2012, 09:38 AM
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Re: So Cal imports
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So you just answered your own question~ yay.
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May 23rd, 2012, 09:39 AM
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Re: So Cal imports
Was thinking maybe 3 more times at least.
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