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Old December 22nd, 2009, 11:59 AM   #1
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Default ZMAX Good or Bad?
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Has anyone ever tried the Zmax stuff? I'm interested in it but haven't fully read up on all of it yet. Any input (good or bad)?
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Old December 22nd, 2009, 02:10 PM   #2
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If Carrol Shelby uses it, it must be good....

Actually, I've wondered the same thing. I'ts been around quite a while now, sooooo, they must be selling a good bit of the stuff.
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Old December 22nd, 2009, 02:40 PM   #3
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I heard and read were there is lawsuites with them making false claims. I just wondered if anyone here ever used it.

They say it soaks into the metal. So lets say I get a 5gal bucket of the shit and soak all my engine parts (lifters, bearing, cam, pistons, .....) in it before I build the engine. I'm I ahead of the game? You know what I'm saying.
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Old December 22nd, 2009, 03:34 PM   #4
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I never used it but I did a few commercials for them and to watch ther demos...impressive...if it does half of what they say it worth it
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Old December 22nd, 2009, 03:46 PM   #5
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i used it in my 300zx in conjunction with amzoil and i ran the hell out of it at auto-x and it never even got hot
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 08:20 AM   #6
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I'd never heard of it before, but one of the first links Google brings up is this:

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2001/02/zmax1.shtm

...so that's not a very reassuring sign.
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 08:54 AM   #7
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Snake oil. I steer my customers away from it, if asked about the product. If you want a good product, try Lucas oil stabilizer, not exactly anything like what Z-max claims to be, but it helps with quite a few problems. I don't have an aftermarket sump, so I add a half quart along, with 2 quarts of oil, every oil change.
Most people are just worried about protecting their investment, regular oil changes will do the most good. Along with that, I suggest the Lucas upper cylinder lubricant/fuel system cleaner, every oil change. I know it works, because I've had customers come back thanking me for my advice. One guy picked up 5 miles to the gallon in efficiency. I use it in my bug, not that I would notice an increase in fuel efficiency, due to my lead right foot.

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just run a good ZDDP rich oil like Mobil 1 .... to coat them scratches and fill them in when the bearings get galled or worn. and the Lucas products can never go wrong. just dont use them in a Mazda V6 miller cycle engine. instant freight train smoke. kinda like bad valve stem seals or guides with Seafoam poured in the oil .....
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 11:17 AM   #9
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Back in the late 1980's I met a man named Joe Lencki. He was the one that came up with a very interesting lubricant called Lenckite. It was a byproduct of caster oil. This product was well used in the air cooled aviation engines. I used it in my outboard motors for the tunnel hull race boats and my 66 gto blown Chevy BB. The bearings were found to be super clean during teardowns after hard races. Is it snake oil ? No. If you do put it in an old motor it will cause the old engine deposits to to lift and eventully clog your oil filter thus restricting oil flow to the important areas of the motor. Synthetics will do the same. The product also goes under the name Aveblend.
http://www.avblend.com/faa/kas_thomas_lenckite.html
This product is also is marketed as Zmax.
http://www.fabulousracers.com/zmax.html

It will not add HP to your engine. It will add a some additional protect . If you want to save $$$ the best protect regarding engine oil is change it every 3500 miles along with the filter.
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 01:14 PM   #10
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http://www.zmax.com/documents/56012_small_engine.pdf

http://www.zmax.com/documents/diesel..._end_user1.pdf

http://www.zmax.com/documents/diesel_fuel_end_user1.pdf

According to the MSDS, Zmax is greater than 99% Mineral Oil.

How much do they sell the stuff for ?
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According to the MSDS, Zmax is greater than 99% Mineral Oil.

Unkl Ian , You 're right! I guess I wasn't paying too much attention to detail 20 years ago .

Mineral Oil .... by product of crude oil . At the oil refinery I worked at there was an old Timer that would take a half cup from the mineral oil storage tank and drink it . He did it every other day. It kept him regular.
Here's an interesting link I found - It's an aircraft forum chatting about this stuff . The Zmax owner chimes in . Check it out.
http://forums.piperowner.org/read/4/53859/page=1
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... The product also goes under the name Aveblend.
http://www.avblend.com/faa/kas_thomas_lenckite.html
This product is also is marketed as Zmax.
http://www.fabulousracers.com/zmax.html
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/style...blend-msds.pdf
http://www.zmax.com/documents/msds_105_avblend.pdf
Avblend is FAA approved, but is also >99% Mineral Oil.
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 06:04 PM   #13
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I wonder what the other 1% is maybe special sauce (scott says he has plenty)
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Cream of Sumyoungguy ?
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Old December 24th, 2009, 09:37 PM   #15
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In order for anything to penetrate or sink in to metal it would have to reach an extremely high temp.I don't know the exact temp but at that hot temp an engine would self destruct.They proved this when Slick 50 claimed thier product actually penetrated the metal.This stuff is a coating and as such will wear off.I have no personal experience with the product or with metalurgy so I'm repeating the results of a test by an independent lab.You be your own judge.Racers have been using Wynn's friction proofing for years.It certainly won't hurt to try it.
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I have been using a oil additive in my engines and at work for various things for a while. I got to meet one the guys that actually came up with the stuff at a car show this year as it is a Utah based company. I will look at the bottle the next time in the garage and give yall the name and web address of the stuff. Sorry for not knowing it off the top of my head.
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