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Old March 26th, 2017, 02:36 PM   #1
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Hey gang,
I think I have an idea on how to extend the front end out about 6-9" without an extender AND it would be IFS. I know eyeball engineering and Mendeola have IFS kits, but they locate everything in the stock positions. I'm going to start drawing some plans up.
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Old March 27th, 2017, 04:59 AM   #2
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Hey ! You had this idea yesterday. Where are the plans ?
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Old March 27th, 2017, 11:34 AM   #3
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Here is a 30 second sketch.
It moves the wheels forward about 7" Yes, it would take some fabbing, but you could bolt it in to the beam mount holes, put the rear of the arms on a bracket in front of the MC, put a R&P on top of the framehead, a few u-joints to the steering and a longitudinal leaf spring and you're good to go.. You could even move the wheels out further, depending on how you make the a-arms. Just a thought.
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Looks doable to me.
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Old March 27th, 2017, 02:44 PM   #5
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If you use super beetle spindles, it even gets easier.
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Someone needs to make a "beam flip" kit.
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Old March 27th, 2017, 04:14 PM   #7
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That would actually be pretty easy. You're basically pulling the 2 front mounts and turning them around. They even make aftermarket ones for linkpin. I think you could then mount a superbeetle steering box with a longer pitman arm to stick though the beams. Put your tie rods on and do the happy dance. The ackerman may be a bit off and you would have to get the linkage to fit behind the hood, but I think it could be done pretty easily. It would give you about 11" of extension. You could go even crazier and put longer off-road trailing arms.

Lowering the beam would be easiest if you dd just a cut a twist. As for putting in adjusters, I'd have to do some math on that.
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Adjusters, might take a little trial and error.
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Someone needs to make a "beam flip" kit.
Flipped beam?? "That will never work" I am still told after i have put over 47,000 miles on mine. LOL
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Flipped beam?? "That will never work" I am still told after i have put over 47,000 miles on mine. LOL
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Notice the headlight placement on Timbo's avartar.



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Notice the headlight placement on Timbo's avartar.



I always loved the way that looked

I have half a beam sitting somewhere in my garage that I thought about trying that on, I just never seemed to get around to it along with all the many projects I have, I read somewhere that someone who has a lot of unfinished projects is the # 1 sign of depression, I must really be depressed , I do at least touch most of mine off-n-on thru out the year, I only finish them in the necessary order

Oh yeah, Jeff, I like that idea, but I also like the the use of mostly VW suspension parts

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I always seem to have several projects going at once. And now that I think about it, a number of my friends do to. I see this as a "creative challenge."
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Just my opinion, but my VW needs to be as VW as possible, despite the engineering challenges. Of course I like to bring chopper and street rod techniques and ideas into my toys, though
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Old April 9th, 2017, 07:41 PM   #15
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You can use 71-73 super beetle spindles and arms. You need 4 arms and 4 ball joints. One set gets flipped over and bolted on top of the spindle. Make some brace arms going back and figure out some shock mounts. That's what I'm doing on my volksrod.
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