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Old July 3rd, 2010, 11:34 AM   #101
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How about this question: does extending the steering and brake lines cause any noticeable problems? Any need to change out the master cylinder to help with the longer brake lines? Do you guys swap over to braided brake lines or just use longer stock quality lines?
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Old July 3rd, 2010, 11:55 AM   #102
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Seems to me search function would answer alot of these questions. Most of us just go for it then work out the problems one at a time. Far as welding and fabbing I'm a dud but problem solving I can do. Lotsa info I got right here from the search function and one on one's. It's only a few inches longer and plenty of us have done it. Just make sure your brake lines are damn good or new. Stock master cyl is fine, not a giant increase in fluid volume.
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Old July 3rd, 2010, 01:25 PM   #103
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How about this question: does extending the steering and brake lines cause any noticeable problems? Any need to change out the master cylinder to help with the longer brake lines? Do you guys swap over to braided brake lines or just use longer stock quality lines?
Lengthen the steering shaft and add two u-joints to compensate for the steering box location and lengthen the steel brake lines...this is easier and cheaper than using steel braided lines.
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Old July 4th, 2010, 03:46 AM   #104
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longer stock works great I have mine running together off the MC then the passenger runs through the beam extender to the other wheel. the driver one just runs straight up to the beam and out to the wheel. I welded the stock line clamps to the shock towers to secure the lines.
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Old July 4th, 2010, 03:48 AM   #105
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Old July 17th, 2010, 12:50 PM   #106
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I bought the bottom end of a super steering linkage from the junk yard,used a solid steel rod inserted into the cut original shaft,used a bronze pillow block bearing for a support and pinned everything together after weldng for added saftey,works great!Cut the stock brake line mounts off,mad a new bracket base for them,played with the wheel until i found a spot that would allo full turn of the wheel in both directions without overextending the line or making it rub the inside of the wheel when compressed and welded them in place.



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Old July 17th, 2010, 02:49 PM   #107
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this is how i did mine I cut some UHMW
pounded it in from the cabin side
hooked everything up using super beetle u-joints and shaft

this is the part of the super beetle shaft the goes to the steering wheel just cut the threads off grind a notch for the bolt to go through

and then weld it to the rag joint coupler (i cut the tabs off)
way easy it just takes time
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Old July 17th, 2010, 03:51 PM   #108
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Why is the box so far towards the center?I centered the shaft in the column,with the pillow block holding it centered,it doesnt make any contact with anything down the column.I cross drilled and pinned every union as an added saftey feature,dont trust my welds that far!
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I used the same method using a bushing in the end of the steering column.
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Why is the box so far towards the center?
so I can run my 10" without cutting a notch in the hood
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Hi Doug,

I probably haven't searched enough, but I can't find any info on the headlight brackets you make. (like on Zim's RPU and on your freedom project.)
Thanks for any info
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Old July 19th, 2010, 08:30 AM   #112
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I probably haven't searched enough, but I can't find any info on the headlight brackets you make. (like on Zim's RPU and on your freedom project.)
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Old July 19th, 2010, 10:11 AM   #113
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cause I havent posted any shoot me an e-mail
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Kickin' this back up cause it's about time one of the newbies is gonna ask these questions again.
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Old December 12th, 2010, 11:07 AM   #115
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Good thing I read this, or I might not have thought about doing the bracing. Or the double nutting.

With any luck I'll be able to order an extension this week *prays to God*

I need more motivation to ditch work and work on my project rod

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Old December 12th, 2010, 02:11 PM   #116
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Hey Mr Chainsaw dont lose your job or you wont be able afford PARTS!!
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Old December 12th, 2010, 07:03 PM   #117
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If anyone needs UHMW a cheap source for it is Cutting boards. although they are flat and usually about 1/2" its still possible to use that material... These can often be found at a Dollar store.
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Hey Mr Chainsaw dont lose your job or you wont be able afford PARTS!!
I have like 5 jobs. Luckily one of them is at an aircooled shop and my boss throws parts at me whenever I start talking about my VR project. He thinks its completely nuts and doesn't fully understand it, but he's totally into it. BUT, when I'm working on my stuff I'm not working on his customers stuff, which means I'm not getting paid. My first job is actually bail bonding/bounty hunting, but that's been super slow thanks to the economy and the Virginia political machine. My other jobs are more like hobbies that sometimes make me money (screen printing, music, working on motorcycles).

And this has nothing to do with beam extensions, oops.
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Has anybody had any problem installing the Dbug41 8" lp/lp Extension & Tie Rods? My uncle was working on the car and told me that after installation of the extender the tie rods hit the extender.
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Has anybody had any problem installing the Dbug41 8" lp/lp Extension & Tie Rods? My uncle was working on the car and told me that after installation of the extender the tie rods hit the extender.
Ys this has been a problem for a few of my customers recently and I am taking the neccecery steps to correct it unfortunatly this does not help you in any way. most people have an adj. beam therefore this is not an issue with the wieght put on the car.
what I've done and what others have done is to grind that one plate back to the bolt plate there is more than enough steel to do that. Sometimes on custom cars you still have to Cut, Weld, Grind...
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GOOse,
I'm wondering is your 'uncle' has installed the backing plates/brakes/drums, bolted on the wheels/tires and put the VR back on the ground..? 1 of my tie rods rubbed while everything was still up in the air, once it was on the ground there was no problems.....

AND, did you contact Doug (dbug41) prior to posting...read Doug's post above AND EMAIL him...Doug is a super cool guy. He did stuff for me and I'm all the way in Hawaii!~

BTW, Doug, I've gotta order up a brace. Any powdercoating?
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Ys this has been a problem for a few of my customers recently and I am taking the neccecery steps to correct it unfortunatly this does not help you in any way. most people have an adj. beam therefore this is not an issue with the wieght put on the car.
what I've done and what others have done is to grind that one plate back to the bolt plate there is more than enough steel to do that. Sometimes on custom cars you still have to Cut, Weld, Grind...
So your saying that if I have an adjustable beam I should be ok?

He was going to grind it a little, so, thats no problem. But i told him to hold on before starting to cut since I hadent heard of anybody having an issue. He likes to get "cut happy" and i wanted to make sure it was ok to do that.

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GOOse,
I'm wondering is your 'uncle' has installed the backing plates/brakes/drums, bolted on the wheels/tires and put the VR back on the ground..? 1 of my tie rods rubbed while everything was still up in the air, once it was on the ground there was no problems.....

AND, did you contact Doug (dbug41) prior to posting...read Doug's post above AND EMAIL him...Doug is a super cool guy. He did stuff for me and I'm all the way in Hawaii!~

BTW, Doug, I've gotta order up a brace. Any powdercoating?
Aloha
I was thinking the same thing about the install. I will double check to make sure he has everything installed and the car on the ground.

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I have a question. What is the longest anyone has ever extended a bug front end?
I was thinking I wanted mine out at least 12 or 14 inches. Maybe even longer. I bought an old Baja with a bug eye front end so I dont have any sheetmetal in my way. I was thinking of doing a really long front nose like on the old deco cars of the 20's and 30's. Maybe extend the cowl and extend the hood somehow. What about 24" ? I can make the bracing and increase the castor to keep it at the stock profile.
Am I a little crazy? Am I almost better off building a new frame?
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