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Old May 17th, 2013, 04:02 AM   #1
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Default Bolts out, plate off, now what? Lowering rear 69

I have read several SAMBA threads and some here. Decided to drop my 69 rear today. Disassembled to this point and can't see how to remove the "arm" which I presume allows access to the splines for rotating. Any help appreciated, Thanks!
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Old May 17th, 2013, 04:32 AM   #2
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I have read several SAMBA threads and some here. Decided to drop my 69 rear today. Disassembled to this point and can't see how to remove the "arm" which I presume allows access to the splines for rotating. Any help appreciated, Thanks!
Click "Cut and Weld Forums" Scroll down to "Tech Bin". Find and click "adjusting IRS rear suspension". (In case the this instruction isn't clear try this.
http://volksrods.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30372

Reading this might also help.

http://vw.zenseeker.net/Wheels-TorsionBars.htm

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I usually do inner splines. This is because the outers always seem to stick in the spring plates. Other people do outers or a combo of each. You can go 2 spines in one direction and 1 in an other to fine tune a drop. Get a degree indicator and follow the link. Have fun!

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If you haven't unbolted the axle from the hub, you will need to do this. It will allow the arm to drop completely out of the spring plates. Then the plates can be slid out.

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Thanks guys! Removed shock and jacked swing arm up until former rubber bumper mounts were touching. This allowed the arm to slide past its mounting plate with a very light pry from a screwdriver. I felt the splines disengage and reengage so I moved it clockwise 2 splines and slid the arm back on. As it turns out, I basically removed the preload on the torque rod and the plate was aligned with its original marks, just no pressure on the down stop. No notching, no axle removal, no special 12 point socket and no hammers. 3 hours start to finish. Looks completely sick with wide white L60's and centerline racing wheels. Left side was already set 2 splines down so I am glad I did this. Been running around with asymmetrical suspension and didn't even know it.

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Someone wrote somewhere "Show us pics or it didn't happen!"


I would really like to see how it looks now. If you get a chance post em.
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Here it is, I think it went down about 4". Test drive indicated no bottoming out on the arms on normal roads. Thanks!
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If you swap sides with your arms, it will take care of that camber issue. Makes your tires last alot longer.
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First I have heard of this arm swapping you speak of..........you mean the entire swing arm?
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'Tis true. Gotta swap the shock mounts to the upper side of the trailing arm if you do this though... Meaning cut them off and weld them back on basically upside down. IIRC, you not only flip the arms, but also swap them side to side.
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For me, removing the castor would defeat the purpose of the overall look. it is unique to a slammed Beetle and basically says" look at me, I am a garage built, hack job rat and don't give a fuhk". Tires and rims were $60, I"ll just buy more when needed. I have realized kids and Asian girls smile and point when a Volksrod rolls by. That is fun but I will grow tired of that eventually. i want them to cry and grab their mommy's legs out of fear. That will require a blower, open exhaust, and more cubic inches than you can cram into the rear of a VW.
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Here it is, I think it went down about 4". Test drive indicated no bottoming out on the arms on normal roads. Thanks!

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For me, removing the castor would defeat the purpose of the overall look. it is unique to a slammed Beetle and basically says" look at me, I am a garage built, hack job rat and don't give a fuhk". Tires and rims were $60, I"ll just buy more when needed. I have realized kids and Asian girls smile and point when a Volksrod rolls by. That is fun but I will grow tired of that eventually. i want them to cry and grab their mommy's legs out of fear. That will require a blower, open exhaust, and more cubic inches than you can cram into the rear of a VW.

To each his own. I personally don't like the look. It speaks, "I was lowered incorrectly" to me. But I do agree with you that it has become a statement made by many VWs.

I think that 420 hp out of a VW motor is plenty, and it can be done - reliably.

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I am not a fan of the "broken Axle" look. A little is fine, but not too much. I am doing a 67 that I put on a 73 IRS pan and did a arm flip and dropped it 1 inner notch..we will see what it look like with the motor back in. But now it sits lower than stock OLD and worn out with no motor, glass, or intr. Just chopped and painted it
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