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Old July 15th, 2014, 08:00 AM   #1
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Im thinking about building a frame and ditching the floor pan. My thought is that I want to shorten the body a few inches to get the proportions right. So by building a frame I can build it to the correct length for the dropped I beam and channel the body at the same time? The floor pan is boarder line worth saving and it might be less work to start over by building a frame. I can build a frame for less than a beam extension would cost me and I could solve a bunch of issues at the same time. I was checking out this link on the LS1 forum and it looks fairly straight forward. Who here has built their own frames? Words of advice, pros or cons. I'm thinking this might be worth the effort? Thoughts...

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Old July 15th, 2014, 08:27 AM   #2
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Old July 15th, 2014, 08:27 AM   #3
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KDF Mangler built a nice frame, I'm sure there are others.
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Old July 15th, 2014, 08:42 AM   #6
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Mines nowhere close to the skill level as the ones posted here but it's a frame. I used the pan to get the shape I needed.

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Mines nowhere close to the skill level as the ones posted here but it's a frame. I used the pan to get the shape I needed.

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Nice work and thanks for the link. I will read through the whole thing this evening... Thanks again
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Rorty mid engine chassis design. I have those plans in my email.if you need them let me know.
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Rorty mid engine chassis design. I have those plans in my email.if you need them let me know.
Oh, that would be sweet just to eye ball for a few and to see if Im on the right track or not... Need my email address?
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Good info right there. Ive been building A and T frames for years and never seen that link before. It's in my Hot Rod Tech favoriates now. Thanks
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Also check the frame on Bugsplat.
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Several slightly different approaches out there.
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Very cool stuff right there. In thinking more about building the frame I think I will just build something that I can channel the body over at this point. I most likley will be going with a dropped I beam in the front so buiding the mount in the front just got eaiser. It will be very basic with only a spring hanger and a couple hair pin anchor points and of course shock mounts. In the back I think I want to build it in a modular fashion. Im thinking about building the engine / Honda tranny in a cradle that when and if I need to remove the engine I can just un bolt the whole assembly and lift the rest of the car off of it using the car lift. I can build the rear suspension, motor mount, and exhaust out of the car in a sub frame and attach it to the rest of the frame via bolts when ever Im ready? Heck I might even be able to attach the radiator as well. Wouldnt it be nice to be able to undo a shift cable, throttle cable, wire bundle with quick disconnects, fuel lines and lift off the body leaving the complete drive train on the ground. Why not?
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Your frame design should be based on your powertrain and the purpose of the vehicle. If youre going to put in a big torque HP motor the frame should be designed so it doesnt twist or flex. You dont want your doors flying open when you stomp on the gas. Suspension and ride height too.
So start with a piece of paper and write down the details what you to achieve in your design. All my projects have a notebook with the ideas , sketches , parts list, supply vendors etc.
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Thanks for the reply and great advice.

I'm a car builder by trade but semi new to the air cooled rides. Ive had several over the years but went off road with most of them so everything went "up" instead of "down". My experience has been with US built pre 40 cars and trucks. I typically do my design work on Solid-works which I can stumble through enough to get by. It is very important to get all the ducks in a row before even picking up a torch so thats why I'm here... Picking the brains of the guys that know and understand these rides. Ive spent countless evening hours scouring through these threads and admiring the work all you guys are doing here. It is really cool to see what can be done with a few tools and some desire. I marvel at the one thread where the guy in Venezuela is re-doing his ride without the use of a bunch of tools I take for granted. Those guys are the true craftsman!

Guess all this to say thanks for the direction and be sure to call me out on anything I may be screwing up in the process! Thanks again.
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Wish this would be legally here..
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No modifying at all? Or just no extreme modifications? Wow... cant even imagine that!
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Twister, as far as quick connect cables go, check out wecrash.com. It is a demo derby forum. I work with a guy that builds all his demo cars with quick connect everything so he can easily swap motors, pedals, and shifters between cars. I've helped him build a few of his pedal and shifter kits. I can ask him where he gets the parts for his kits if interested.
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Talked to my coworker about where he gets his cables and rod ends. midwestcontrol.com. Hope that helps.
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we can do it just need to get them checked and aproved to be lagal
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Twister, as far as quick connect cables go, check out wecrash.com. It is a demo derby forum. I work with a guy that builds all his demo cars with quick connect everything so he can easily swap motors, pedals, and shifters between cars. I've helped him build a few of his pedal and shifter kits. I can ask him where he gets the parts for his kits if interested.
Heck yeah... that could save me a ton of time researching all that stuff. I will check out that link right now. Thanks man
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