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December 17th, 2008, 05:16 PM
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V8 Irish Volksrod
Well, I've been reading this forum for a few years now but finally have a reasonable excuse to start posting as I've just started my long awaited Volksrod Project! My name is John and I hail from the little but well know island of Ireland...please no Paddy Jokes!!!
Anyway, I've been building Kit-cars and Hot Rods for a number of years and have built a few Kitcars based on the Beetle chassis but I've always had the urge to built a Volksrod, but not just any Volksrod...it has to have a V8! For some strange reason I've become a "V8-aholic" lately and everything I touch gets the V8 treatment!
As well as being a massive VW fan the Volksrod made perfect sense and seeing as I had some spare time as other projects were on hold I thought I would get a good start at it over the Xmas season.
My plan is to chop, channell and shorten the Beetle body which will mount onto a homemade chassis with Independent Suspension all round. I want to mount the V8 up front and use a Ford Model 'B' grille and bonnet instead of the Beetle bonnet.
Here's what I've being doing over the last few days:
1 unused and forgotten Beetle
We Irish aren't the best when it comes to safety!
Honestly we had to work quick as the bar holding the rear up was slowly bending!
No need to even take the car off the trailer!
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December 17th, 2008, 05:22 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
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December 17th, 2008, 05:31 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
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December 17th, 2008, 05:38 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
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December 17th, 2008, 05:51 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
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December 18th, 2008, 04:29 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
Did a quick Photoshop just to give you all an idea of what i want to achieve.
I want shorten the length of the body in order to give a kind of Coup look with a smaller rear quarter window. I'm going to remove about 4inches from the roof, not excessive by any means but I think it will look proportion and not too flat. I plan on removing the 'B' pillar completely and installing a retractable window frame so I can have both front and rear side windows working on electric motors. Also, my sitting position is going to be a little back than normal as i'm going to lose the front bulk head so in effect i'll probably be looking out the rear side window more than usual!
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December 26th, 2008, 05:19 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
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January 21st, 2009, 02:24 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
Altered the rear mounting points for the rear axle so the chassis rails sit just were I want them and gives a slight camber in the wheels unlike most cars lowered too exessive which have too much camber for my liking! :D
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January 21st, 2009, 02:26 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
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January 21st, 2009, 02:32 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
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January 25th, 2009, 03:58 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
Started work on the front mounting brackets for the Upper 'A' Arms and the Shock fixing point.
Firstly I did a drawing of my desired shape
Then plasma cut the shape out 4 times from 6mm plate steel, 2 for either side
Tack welded the first bracket in place...
Then the second...
Next, I tack welded the short 26mm steel rod which I drilled and taped earlier to hold the Upper 'A' Arm in place.
Bolted up the lower 'A' Arm with ball joint
Upper 'A' arm installed with the Granada Hub and Disc also in place
Coil-over Shock fixed in place
Finished front passenger side mocked up and looking good
Gotta repeat the procedure now for the other side.
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January 29th, 2009, 09:45 AM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
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February 1st, 2009, 07:43 AM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
Update....
Did a bit more work on the rear chassis section which will hold the Diff in place and will also provide fixing points for the Rear Shocks, petrol tank etc.
Rear Axle before starting
100x50 Box Section being cut
Two newly formed upstands
Because the Beetle body Tapers alot to the rear I needed to Taper the chassis rails too so I cut an angle from the Rear Axle mounting point so the new upstands would taper towards the Diff.
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February 1st, 2009, 07:45 AM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
Once I had the Rear Chassis Section formed I mark the position of the holes for fixing of the Diff.
Cut some 10mm Plate into two pieces.
Placed the 2 pieces over the mounting holes on the Diff mount.
Placed the Rear Chassis Section in place over the two pieces.
Welded the pieces in place
Drilled four 9.5mm holes in plate
Used an M10x1.5 Tap to put a thread for an M10 bolt
Four M10's which screw in nicely
Finished Rear Section lying upside down on the floor
Rear section installed and Diff bolted in place.
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February 25th, 2009, 04:18 AM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
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February 27th, 2009, 03:49 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
Decided I'm definitely going with a Model 'B' grille
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March 8th, 2009, 06:09 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
Here's a mock-up of the old rusted shell as a last chance to measure before chopping and shortening the new donor shell. :twisted:
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March 8th, 2009, 06:12 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
The new Donor Shell up on 'A' frames ready for bracing and marking chop lines.
The plan is to shorten the overall length by 10 inches. This will be a combination of 4 inches from the rear quarter panel and 6 inches from relocating the rear window along with a 4 inches drop in roof height.
Temporary cross bracing added
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March 8th, 2009, 06:14 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
Cutting lines marked up.
4 inches taken from the rear quarters
'A' and 'B' pillars cut and front section removed leaving rear and roof complete.
Front Section
Front and Rear Sections split.
Front and Rear sections rejoined without the removed 4 inches
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March 8th, 2009, 06:19 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
Roof and 'C' pillar removed
Roof
Roof skin removed
6 inches removed from the rear window rail and the roof refitted as shown. You can now see the roof has moved a complete 10 inches in total.
Roof cut in two and the front screen chopped by 4 inches.
Starting to take shape
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March 14th, 2009, 06:06 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
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March 17th, 2009, 05:57 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
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March 17th, 2009, 05:58 PM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
Also made some headway on my engine mounts today...
I've designed them to form a cross member to strengthen the main chassis rails and at the time of designing them I wasn't sure where exactly the engine was going to be placed so I made them adjustable as the chassis rails splay from front to back.
This is the main shape...
Both sides formed and ready to be located in chassis
View from the front
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March 25th, 2009, 05:40 AM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
With the engine sitting on the mounts it was impossible to get the Lexus Oil Filter back on as the chassis rails were too close. As you may remember my original engine choice was the Rover V8 and my main rails were designed around that engine but if I was to do it again with the lexus in mind I'd do it completely different!  :lol:
Anyway...after a bit of research I found out that Renault have the same thread as the Lexus so I pulled off an old Oil Filter I had lying out the back stuck to a Renault 5 Turbo block and it fit nicely. Off I went and bought a new one and as you can see the fit is still very tight with only about 15mm gap...lucky enough the lexus is a very smooth engine so fingers crossed it doesn't knock off the rails! :P
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March 25th, 2009, 05:43 AM
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Re: V8 Irish Volksrod
Also started working on the tunnel, so first thing was to secure the Gearbox mount in position.
I first cut a rectangular shape from 6mm plate
Then marked and drilled the 4 locating holes and bolted the mount to the plate.
Next a slice was made on the underside (opposite side to bend) enough to make the 6mm plate flexible
Bent both sides until they formed the same shape as the mount
Weld up the 'V' cuts formed from bending
Rebolt the Mount with plate to the Gearbox and add some 50x25 box section from the main chassis rails to hold the mount. I will adding some extra support brackets to the underneath of the box section in due coarse
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