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Old April 9th, 2018, 01:09 PM   #1
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Default Any advice for getting into pin striping?

I know purple stripes. Maybe you lot can give me some helpful tips on starting out or things told that you wish were told to you.

Pass on the wisdom, or just tell me to fuck off. Both work
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Old April 9th, 2018, 02:43 PM   #2
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I know purple stripes. Maybe you lot can give me some helpful tips on starting out or things told that you wish were told to you.

Pass on the wisdom, or just tell me to fuck off. Both work

If you go on my site, there is a PDF on how to hold a brush.
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Old April 9th, 2018, 04:13 PM   #3
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If you go on my site, there is a PDF on how to hold a brush. So FUCK OFF
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Old April 9th, 2018, 04:14 PM   #4
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from the tech bin, other stuff there also. http://www.volksrods.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2953
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Old April 9th, 2018, 06:32 PM   #5
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There... I fixed that for you... You're welcome.



I knew you guys were the ones to talk too.

My one shot paint and 000 brush are coming in tomorrow. I got two tiny marker boards to practice on (1.99 each) I've scoured the Web looking for information. Found somethings.

I know this isn't going to be a simple pick up and go. You gotta learn how to not drool on yourself before before you can crawl.

I'm used to doing artistic things.

Practice makes permanent

Thanks for the tip on the link for holding the brush. Gives more ideas. Especially the bit on rotating it.
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I grew up with a guy and his dad both being Artists and hot rodders. They both eventually spent most of their days Pin striping and lettering signs, which all require the same skills. I believe part of their work was yes... Practice. Part of it was pure talent and vision. Part of it was genius. Silent genius. Both have passed on and are sorely missed.
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I grew up with a guy and his dad both being Artists and hot rodders. They both eventually spent most of their days Pin striping and lettering signs, which all require the same skills. I believe part of their work was yes... Practice. Part of it was pure talent and vision. Part of it was genius. Silent genius. Both have passed on and are sorely missed.
Everybody I've talked to about my idea of getting into striping has encouraged it. Simply for the reason above.

It seems to be almost a dying art or at least were I am.

This is something ive been itching to do for awhile now. A long time actually.

I have some ideas of things I can hopefully do. But until then practice practice practice damnit!
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Get a Mack brush.
Series 10.
Size 000.

Unless you have small hands, then get a King 13.

Use Odourless Mineral Spirits to clean up.
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Get a Mack brush.
Series 10.
Size 000.

Unless you have small hands, then get a King 13.

Use Odourless Mineral Spirits to clean up.
The kit 'should' be coming with a Mack 000

I think I have mineral spirits.
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I don't know how 'tiny' your practice boards are, but you can practice on painted poster board. Get a full sheet, cut it into 8 pieces, flat or shiny krylon. That's what I used, then I had something to keep and look back at to progress or what needed more work.
Practice straight lines first, long and short, top to bottom, then across. When they are smooth, consistent and equally spaced, move on to wide curves, large coffee can size. Get those down, make them smaller. Then go for full circle.
And for me, I found it more comfortable to paint on an incline, I have an old drafting table, it was perfect. Going flat at first, your back will hate you. When you get things going a bit, try it at different angles. Cars aren't flat every where.

I myself , added the knowledge I got here to the dvd set by Wizard in '07.
Utube is full of nice folks with simple designs for the beginners, lettering too. If photo bucket hadn't pulled their bs and locked out every acct, I'd link you to my album from the first strokes forward. but I can't. And as far as I know, pinhead lounge won't be back, it's been a few years since that went down, Unk may know something, I haven't heard and search comes up empty , I had 100's of pics there :(

Loading a brush was my first frustration. Go for something close to warm syrup. Slight resistant or pull, but smooth. And don't pour out more than you need. I wasted alot of paint in the beginning. Get some medicine cups, or film canisters, use pop sticks or small paint paddles cut down, stir well, then just scrape off the stick in the edge of the small cup. a 1/2" deep amount will go very far. Don't mix in the cup, the well experienced do it, but they know by sight how much they need and how to miix, but for newbies, it will dry out over night. Use the brush, dab in the paint, smear it on pallet, then dip only a little at a time in the thinner then mix back and forth on pallet. That alone takes a lot of practice to just learn the feel.
Pallet, I use old Mid America mags, cut in half and on a small clipboard.
Thinner, Unk said it, odorless ms for now. I kept 3 small containers, one for lite dipping to mix, one to clean the brush, last for final wash out. NEVER let paint dry in the brush. If you don't have time to clean it, at least use a clothes pin to hang the brush in the thinner, thread level. When you return, swish, clean, dab on towel, and oil it immediately, lay it flat or pin it in an empty cup.

If you use paper towels, you will get lint. Blue shop towels are less linty. DON"T use red shop cloth, that dye is a bitch. Leaves a residue on surfaces when used with thinners. White cloth only.

Stabillo pencils are ok for use on practice boards, but if you want to do something on a real project, staedtler, the only way to go for drawing designs or marking points. Doesn't leave a ghost shadow when wiped off later. Red will stain white.
Ventilation, window open , out in the garage, the thinner won't get you but the paint, some colors are strong.
Just a few things off the top of my head. I haven't flat mack brushed in a very long time. Once I got into scrolls, the bobbo is my brush for almost every thing.

Practice practice practice. Relax, have fun, have some tunes in the back ground, get frustrated, walk away for a bit. It's like learning to write as a kindergartner all over again. Btw, it's addicting
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Yes, Stabillos scratch, now.
Stadler Omnichromes don't scratch as bad.

Berol Sign pens, are nice, don't scratch.
But the lines are a little wide.
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Omnichromes .
I had to get a pencil to spell it earlier and forgot that important word lol
Thanks for catching that. Too common I see folks in the biz/hobby just say Staedlter.
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I got the paints in. Really I was just screwing around and getting a feel of pressure. Couldn't figure out a thinner so I said screw if and used it full. It's like 70 degrees in the house.


First attempt and getting a feel for this.

And after doing a bunch of lines, as well as attacking my taco bell cup I decided to finish my practice session with this.


I got a long long long ways to go but I really like this. I was zoning out while doing this.

Next time I'll lay down some tape to use as a guide
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First choice, is "High Temp Reducer" from 1-shot.
Slows the paint down a fraction.

My second choice, is Odourless Mineral Spirits.

Some old timers use Turpentine, but it smells like shit.


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First attempt and getting a feel for this.

And after doing a bunch of lines, as well as attacking my taco bell cup I decided to finish my practice session with this.


I got a long long long ways to go but I really like this. I was zoning out while doing this.

Next time I'll lay down some tape to use as a guide
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Watch some Youtube Videos on how to as well... there are some decent ones....and some shit ones... but over all you can learn from all of them that are instructive. Some just show lettering types and such and techniques to use on different types of striping jobs (such as your tape one) or a secondary tool to use to lay your hand on... I can't remember the name of the damn thing but there is a special name...) The ones I have seen look improvised like putting a ball of fabric on the end of a stick and using it to rest in an area that it won't be in the way, and you rest your hand on the stick... generally used for lettering mostly. but I have also seen one used to lay down stripes on complex areas and complex stripe layouts. WATCH THE VDIEOS that are available.
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Unfortunately I don't have good internet. I'm gonna have to figure out a way to get it at a public place maybe have a burger or a taco and research. I like what I see so for. Gives me hope.
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like the old timers in the craft say, 10,000 strokes of the brush and you will be ready to start. It takes time and practice.
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Meanwhile, your painted layout of a brush next to the real thing is cool!
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Thanks I was pleased I was able to do that
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Looks good to start.
I started using glass I had laying around and putting a simple design under it to follow.
It has been years since I have touched the brushes though.
I miss the smell of the paint....
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I liked practising on glass too, when it sucked (and it usually did) I could scrape it off with a razor and use the glass again and it was slick like a cars finish.
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When I had my sign shop I used a side glass from an old VW van (of course!) to 'warm up' my brushes.
Last week I was out on my old Sportster and stopped at the Dry Creek General Store, est. 1881. One of the large signs of the three I painted for the owners at the time is still up. If you google Dry Creek Store, Healdsburg, you can see the sign on the left side of the stores wall. The sign was originally hung out on the road, and is painted on both sides. Painted in '79, the enamel background and One-Shot lettering is holding up well. It is one of three I swapped for cash and sandwiches from the deli. When I commented that the sign was still looking good to one of the folks working the deli, he replied, "for over sixty years old, it's doing great!" sigh.
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Alan Johnson wrote THE book on striping.
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