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Old January 11th, 2014, 09:26 PM   #1
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Cool Corvair engine swap?

Any advice? Is it easier to run an adapted vw transmission Or potentially get everything nicked from the corvair directly. Any help and info would nice Granted thats why I'm here and not at the bloody fuckin' samba "Its easier to do a subbie conversion" Not the look i'm going for . I love that old school type of stuff, so throwing a Corvair engine hey that fits perfectly with my plans for this bug.

I know swing arm corvairs are the one to look for since I have a 1968 bug. I know project X has one done to it, and I've dug around the forum, got more information here then I did searching the web

Any opinions on the subject matter?
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Old January 12th, 2014, 08:58 AM   #2
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STF = shoptalkforums.com -----just in case you were wondering. One of the members here on Volksrods has a Corvair rig that you might want to look up.
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Old January 12th, 2014, 09:25 AM   #3
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KDF mangler like the Corvair motors.
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Old January 12th, 2014, 11:21 AM   #4
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Well I know theres two ways I can do it (one way I really want and one way I will do it if its "easier to accomplish". Since the rotation of the corvair engine is the opposite of the vw bugs, you either need to A get a corvair motor running in reverse rotation, or swap the R/P, or a get an earlier bus transmission without reduction gears (knowing how the twin cities vw club sucks up bus parts like a hover that isn't happening any time soon ) Or running a corvair straight up transaxle and cutting metal to make it fit personally I like this route because I could run a powerguilde transmission, Granted after browsing craigslist theres a corvair expert in my neck of the woods... He has bunch of parts and breathes these things apparently. I'm wondering if he has any old school conversion parts hes yanked off of a few vair motors Or one sitting in back. Might be worth a call just to see.
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Any manual VW transaxle can have the ring and pinion "flipped", to compensate for the reverse engine rotation.
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Old January 12th, 2014, 11:54 AM   #6
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Hey, I just replied to your PM with likely way too much info. Having a Corvair guru in your neck of the woods is a big plus.
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Old January 12th, 2014, 01:56 PM   #7
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Hey, I just replied to your PM with likely way too much info. Having a Corvair guru in your neck of the woods is a big plus.
Hey you know what? its cool hearing that. When your on the samba they just bash it and say your car will explode, or just do a subbie conversion. I always liked corvairs and bugs, and hotrods, sooo why not combine all three? Also, In the car club we got some people who know corvairs, heck the one whose most cool with me use to ice race them

I was also gifted a book in my automotive class by the teacher, a 1967 text book they had back in the Ol days It had some stuff on the corvair in it, also actually tells you how to fix parts! Unlike the modern day one we had which mentioned "Replace" for everything. I learned more skimming through that smaller 1967 text book then I did that modern ASE standard text book. Most it can be summed up. Find problem replace part, regardless of whats wrong. you're not certified to replace it? Find somebody who is. Basically plug in the computer and replace.
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Old January 12th, 2014, 02:48 PM   #8
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From my experience, when some AH of an 'expert' (X being an unknown quantity, 'spert' being a drip under pressure) tells you that, "it won't work, can't be done, etc.", it's not only because they can't do it, but they don't possess the creative vision to even consider it...grrr.
Figure out what you want to do, build it, and as we used to say out in the field, "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke."

Anyway, like I said, if you have a Corvair guy or two around, and by now there are a lot more options than back in the seventies and these guys will be familiar with them, you're good to go.:grin
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Old January 12th, 2014, 04:05 PM   #9
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From my experience, when some AH of an 'expert' (X being an unknown quantity, 'spert' being a drip under pressure) tells you that, "it won't work, can't be done, etc.", it's not only because they can't do it, but they don't possess the creative vision to even consider it...grrr.
Figure out what you want to do, build it, and as we used to say out in the field, "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke."

Anyway, like I said, if you have a Corvair guy or two around, and by now there are a lot more options than back in the seventies and these guys will be familiar with them, you're good to go.:grin
Also i'm stubborn 90% of the people who have seen my bug have told me to scrap it. The Vw experts agreed on that one The people in the car club saw I wasn't cutting up a mint cherry and are behind me 100% I guess having a young kid straight out of highschool taking advance interest in such a hobby proposing ideas, and jumping into the scene they like.
Hey and honestly with the local car shows we have in my neck of the woods the people enjoy the cars and help one another out Even if the corvair expert is a dead end, and a purist. He might have the gutted parts of a conversion lying about if he's gathered motors. Though I really like the idea of putting a powerglide in. The only question I have is the axles.
You mentioned in your message about adapters. I've seen those pop up on a sterling forum (Guy was scrapping the entire thing to make his kit car pure.. .Kit car purists WHO KNEW?! ) However i'm wondering if I could rig something... Damnit I wish I was still in school Damnit why did I have to get A's and B's and graduate.
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Old January 13th, 2014, 12:26 PM   #10
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Posted a picture of Operation X in my "car club" page, and people loved it The ice racer friend who I talked about who knows corvairs is behind me on this and knows some people who might be able to help with this Hes going to see where his old racing parts ended up Hell yeah this might become a reality! I would be chopping the bug today if we weren't suppose to get hit with snow Still...awesome

We'll see what happens. When I stop chopping the car i'll post my attempts here. However if ti doesn't snow I'll be chopping it tomorrow.
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Old January 13th, 2014, 06:34 PM   #11
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Glad to hear someone else thinking about using a Corvair motor. My next build if time allows ,is going to be a Dune Buggy with a Corvair motor and done up to look like the ones,that raced on Pikes Peak.
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Old January 14th, 2014, 06:36 PM   #12
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Glad to hear someone else thinking about using a Corvair motor. My next build if time allows ,is going to be a Dune Buggy with a Corvair motor and done up to look like the ones,that raced on Pikes Peak.
I take it thats what your avatar is? Sweet if you do post pictures here man. I want to see that. Starting to really get into corvair power plants Starting to grow on me a bit.
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if you don't get a donor car corvair it can get pricey getting everything one piece at a time. I did an adapter to a corvair but I also was constantly worried abut that vw trans axle blowing up. I do love the corvair engines though !

corvair trans axle is alittle bit stronger but bulker and heaver too.
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if you don't get a donor car corvair it can get pricey getting everything one piece at a time. I did an adapter to a corvair but I also was constantly worried abut that vw trans axle blowing up. I do love the corvair engines though !

corvair trans axle is alittle bit stronger but bulker and heaver too.
Yeah my goal is to wait until a cheap rusted out Corvair appears on the local craigslist with a working engine and trans. There was a daily driver for 1200 that was a was a bit rusty but i need to save up the money. Basically my plan is to get a corvair. Take everything that I can repurpose for my car, I'm even thinking about if I get a corvair cutting out the dash and welding that into my bug, and what ever little interior items I can nab. I want to end up with basically an empty shell I'll be selling off, after parting it out
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Getting a complete donor is always the best way, for cost and also to save time. If you can get the donor cheap, you might just be able to sell off parts and get your engine and trans for nearly free.
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Getting a complete donor is always the best way, for cost and also to save time. If you can get the donor cheap, you might just be able to sell off parts and get your engine and trans for nearly free.
Yeah. I've even thought about doing one of those crazy 1960's style hot rod builds using every part I can from the corvair then selling off parts I can't use. I'm keeping my eyes open. The cheapest corvairs around me are currently 1600 bucks.. firm it seems. And thats a bit TOO much out of my comfort zone especially considering one of them is in parts, and the other one has a flywheel thats unriveting More will pop up. I know they will. Corvairs have been coming out of the wood work around here.
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It's been a looong time, but there used to be a fix for the flywheel's loose rivets. I think the repair involved tapered rivets, but like I said, it's been a looong time.
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It's been a looong time, but there used to be a fix for the flywheel's loose rivets. I think the repair involved tapered rivets, but like I said, it's been a looong time.
Yeah a google search pulled up nothing. and honestly its not worth it for that price. if it was a bit cheaper yes, because apparently the fix is 200 dollars Or 179 if I buy the part myself.. and honestly i'll keep on eye on it.. Just incase its price drops.
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man i hope to be as rad as KDFmangler one day!! such a wicked build man
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I have to get my corvair crank turned and I'll be ready to assemble mine. been wayyy too long on this build!
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You can find some more transplant info here
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Unless you just dumb luck into a cheap Corvair.. the whole transplant and conversion can get pricey.

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