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Old February 16th, 2014, 07:24 PM   #1
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Default cut-n-turn to lower

I gotta stock '71 standard I wanna drop mebbe 1.5 or 2 inches in the front
so I wanna do a cut-n-turn.
any suggestions how much to turn it?
what is the prevailing theory
1) turn only the top,
2) only the bottom
3)turn both a little
4) how much.
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Old February 17th, 2014, 05:31 AM   #2
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Default Re: cut-n-turn to lower

Both and I think the magic number would be 3/8".
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Old February 17th, 2014, 03:21 PM   #3
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I believe its 10 degrees for 1" to drop.
I would turn both but if you turn one less the other I think it will stiffen and a little more to soften.

Also pulling some of the small torsion leafs to decrease the spring rate a little.
This works good if the car gets lighter. But a few can work to make it softer and you can reinsert them or some if its too much.

Drop spindles are the way to go for mild drops though.
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Old February 17th, 2014, 03:27 PM   #4
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Default Re: cut-n-turn to lower

I do think adjusters would be better because you can adjust it to where you want, if its too much you don't need to pull the beam cut and weld, reinstall only to find its not enough.....

All you need to do is pull the leaves out leaving them attached to the trailing arms on one side. Then mark and cut one tube and install the adjuster. Weld it up then do the other and slide the torsions back it and bolt the other side trailing arms back on.

Only a little more work and you'll be happier with the results.

This PDF below has info about the degrees as well as the installation of the adjusters.

http://www.swayaway.net/joomla/image...TADJUSTERS.pdf

This one might help as well.
http://www.swayaway.net/joomla/image...EAFSPRINGS.pdf

This post on the Samba deals with raising, but thats only how you index the the Adjuster, but it explains how they install as well with good pics.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=287767

The adjusters can be "flipped" this means the bracket thing is in a position for greater ground clearance but the inner block get turned in such a way than moves the set grub back and the torsion leaves need to be flipped over to allow this. This is getting into advanced lowering though and not for the Mild drop you desire.

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Old February 18th, 2014, 04:17 PM   #5
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Default Re: cut-n-turn to lower

thanks guys for the responses.
I ordered 1 weld in adjuster

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my question is
doing both or just one?
will it be OK to do just one?
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No. You need to do both. Why didn't you just get them at Chirco? To maintain proper geometry, why not use lowered spindles? Just my two cents.
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I'm pretty sure I am gunna hafta put inna couple balljoints and/or tie rod ends once I get it apart .. i gotta find someplace to do a real 4 wheel wheel alignment & I am onnna budget here!
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The adjusters are only 13.69 from Chirco - cheaper than Ebay.

Ball joints are 13.90 a piece. (uppers are 12.90)

Tie rod ends are 9.90 except for the left inner - it is 14.90.


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Dude!
I should look around more.
it was 188.00 for two switches & a relay & a knob.....
I assumed CHIRCO was gunna be expensive for the BJ & rod ends
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Look on Ebay, I found tie rods balljoints... at good prices.
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