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Old February 25th, 2018, 12:16 PM   #1
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Question Desoto rims question

i just bought some awsome Desoto wirewheels but now i have a some questions. I've seen those rims or rims like that on some sweet volksrods here. But now i would like to know, what is the best way to mount them? so..
- How did you guys mount them? redrill the stock brakedrums (i got 4x130 wheels) or spacers/adapters? (from 4x130 to 5x108)
- where to get redrilled brakedrums or spacers/adapters.
i live in belgium but havent found a machineshop to make em yet and maybe it's just cheaper to ship them from the states... (yes i even shipped a beamextender once)
So what's your 2 cents? anyone something for sale?

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Old February 25th, 2018, 04:34 PM   #2
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What is the Desoto bolt pattern ?

5 x 108 doesn't sound right.
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Old February 25th, 2018, 07:38 PM   #3
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I dug out the receipt for the wheel adapters I had made back on 2004 for my '58
(Ford V8 powered) Single Cab. The front suspension is from a '71 VW bus, so it has power disc brakes and the standard five lug pattern for that year. Since I'm running a 9" Ford rear end, I wanted to run Ford rims all around. Up until then I'd been running a pair of 15"x8" custom wheels built by Stockton Wheels at the rear. Up front I'd been running stock 14" rims from the same Bay Window the front end had come from.

I contacted Motorsport Technology (www.Motorsport-Tech.com) and spoke to Chris. He asked a number of questions including 'wheel offset.' He told me how thick the adapters would be and how much offset was doable without creating too much load on the adapters, or wheel bearings. At the time a pair of custom adapters came to $150.00 plus shipping. I then had Stockton make me a set of 15" x 7" rims with the offset recommended by M T.
I have used the Single Cab to haul lumber, firewood and tow a 22' Catalina sailboat with no problems with the adapters or hubs. They really know what they are doing.
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Old February 25th, 2018, 07:40 PM   #4
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http://www.carnut.com/specs/gen/soto30.html

According to this page ^^^ the bolt pattern is 5 x 4.5",
which is the same as the common later model Ford/Mopar.
Can buy adapters from 4bolt VW to small Ford.
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Old February 25th, 2018, 07:40 PM   #5
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See if you can find out if these wheels are hub centric or lug centric.
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Old February 25th, 2018, 09:04 PM   #6
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Since they are from another make of car, and a very old one at that, wouldn't they be, ah, "ex-centric?"

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All kidding aside, on my old receipt under 'Part Number And Description' it reads, "Adapter-Non Hub Centric."
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https://www.clublexus.com/forums/sc4...l#&gid=1&pid=1

Last post on this page ^^^
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What is the Desoto bolt pattern ?

5 x 108 doesn't sound right.
The bolt pattern is measured by a tire-specialist who is a friend of mine (i think in inches it would be 5x 4 1/4")
The Desoto part i'm less sure of... those are words of the guy who shipped them to me.. but they looked cool so i bought them anyways
they got those wheels from an old lumbercar so there was no more car attached to see the make and model. he told me he saw exact those wheels under a Desoto, so there we are...

but the 5x 108 is right, don't know wich makes used them...
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See if you can find out if these wheels are hub centric or lug centric.
how can i see the difference?
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Since they are from another make of car, and a very old one at that, wouldn't they be, ah, "ex-centric?"

Thank you, and goodnight.
as long as they're not ego-centric, good enough for me...
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Have heard of 4 1/4" bolt pattern.
Will look around a little.
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Old February 27th, 2018, 05:31 PM   #13
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waw there is not a single car on that list where i would see these rims under as stock...so i guess i can rule out a stock spacer and would have to go for a custom made one...

no one ever had them redrilled? that looked easier to me but i don't know if the drumbrakes are "meaty" enough to be drilled at that diameter...
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IIRC, the stock 4 bolt drums only have enough meat where necessary.

Might be able to get blank drums.
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Mopars of the the 60's and 70's (dodge dart) had the 4 1/4 bolt pattern
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So-Cal can get ya blank drums and can drill the them for the bolt pattern you need. Im sure there or other places that could do it also
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I looked a while ago, couldn't find blank rear drums.
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overhere i find blank rear drums but no blank front drums..
anyone have a link?
i'm starting not to care anymore if i have to get them shipped..

this is the link i found..
spacer/adaptors seem complicated to make and drilling blank drums looks safer in my mind... or am i wrong?

this is the link i found..
https://www.paruzzi.com/nl/kever/ach...l-achter/4281/

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It looks to me as if those 'blank' drums are beefed up in the area where you'd drill for the various lug patterns. So drilling the Desoto pattern should be no big deal. There must be front drums available somewhere.
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found some at a local supplier but they are only beefed up in like a cross shape, so to drill a drill a 4 lug pattern, they told me do drill the five lug pattern and smooth out the back to get thread plugs in. but then at least one or two plugs wil be outside of the reenforced zone. they do that on all their drums you can buy to mount porsche-wheels

but ofcourse it will be hard to find a machineshop to do such a wrong job, but i found other drums at an other supplier wich are reŽnforced all the way around so i ordered those
that supplier was that others would sell such stuff

so a little progress, now i hope to get my money back on these first wrong ones..
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A little progress is better than no progress. Those wire wheels will add to the already 'high impression ratio' of your ride.
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yeah they will, cant wait..
bought some cilinders for the engine to, some sounds from the rear end would be impressive to
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Got my money back On those wrong drums...
Well... store credit anyway... but i couldnít risk to lose that coupon anywhere..
So i bought some more parts... :)
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