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Old November 28th, 2010, 01:06 PM   #1
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I have searched Volksrods and the HAMB and the web. Either my searching skills are starting to go down or no-one has ever had my question.

In the back corner of my shop I am stock piling parts for a "traditional" rod. The cowl and door section of a Jeep, A 54 dodge flat 6 and 4 speed trany and various other parts. The one thing I don't have is a frame. Originally I was thinking of using a S-10 frame I have laying around, but I don't really like the way they look naked, So my next option was building my own ladder style frame. In comes the problem. What freaking size of steel would I use. Doing my research I have came across 1 square. 2X3 2X4 hell, even 2X6 then you get into 120 wall or 125 wall etc etc.. Put yourself In my shoes, what would the rest of VolksFamly do
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Old November 28th, 2010, 02:12 PM   #2
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in the spirit of ratrodding I would use whatever I had.
if I was going to go out & buy steel I would go .120 wall 2X4 cuz that I-6 is heavy.
tubular X members are important to maintain torsional stability
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Old November 28th, 2010, 03:41 PM   #3
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That's what was running through the back of my mind. I knew 2x6 is over kill, heavy and expensive. 1 tube Isn't big enough. But because I am poor I will probably do what I don't want to do and use the S-10 frame then spend more money on it trying to pretty it up
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Old November 28th, 2010, 04:31 PM   #4
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2x4 .120 or .125 wall rails that I am using on my Model A project.

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Stock Ford frames:
Model T = 2x3" channel.
Model A = 2x4" channel.
Model B = 2x6" channel.

Personally I would consider 2x4" tube to be minimum for a ladder frame.
1/8" wall should be easy to weld.

Check these guys out for inspiration:
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An S10 frame is great with full fenders.
REAL ugly for anything else.
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Old November 28th, 2010, 05:10 PM   #6
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Right-- 2" X 4 " minimum, 1/8" wall. Pops
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Old November 29th, 2010, 05:04 AM   #7
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I always use 2x4 .125
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We used 2x4 .125 on my uncles 36 ford coupe with a Blown vette motor.No twisty there,and he is not nice to it.
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My whole frame, is 2 x 4 14 ga. mild steel, I think a whole 20' stick was $40. I was going to 2 x 3 but it was more than the 2 x 4, i guess it's an oddball size tubing.
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i used 2x5x1/8 wall on the main frame and 2x3 in the kickup in the front on my kdf mangler but i would tell ya to use 2x4x1/8 as everyone else. one stick ( 20' or 24') should be around 65.00-80.00 . you will have extra after you make your frame. i would pick up some 2x3 or 1 1/2 x 2 1/2 for smaller x members. get the metal and start welding then post pics.
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.... get the metal and start welding then post pics.
I have two projects to finish first. One is the damn truck of mine that should have been done 2 months ago, and a early 70's ford crew cab that I'm getting ready for paint. While thats all going on I've got to seal the deal on the flat head and tear it down to make sure its usable. After that Its on like Donkey Kong
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Old November 29th, 2010, 10:35 PM   #12
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My Volksrod will be out of 1x2 .125 tubing. The car will only have a 80" wheelbase so the smaller size will be more proportional.
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I used 2x3 1/8th wall for my stockfloored Tacoma
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I'd go with 2 by 4 with 1/8 inch wall tube

It's been a while, but when I bought the 2 by 4 by 1/8 wall tube for my BitchNBug It cost me $80 for a 24 foot length, and because I didn't have a way of trucking a 24 foot long piece of steel I had them make 2 cuts so I had three 8 foot pieces, it cost $93 and some change, I think it was $6 for the 2 cuts
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