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Old February 15th, 2013, 10:31 AM   #1
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Default Roadster pickup pan reinforcement needed?

As My 1973 Roadster Pickup build slowly comes along I have heard about some people having excessive pan flexing and sagging problems after creating their home built convertibles since the uni body concept has been compromised. My bug has no rust in the heater channels or pan area but if I can avoid potential problems by installing a side bracing kit or make my own, I will do it before I make it road ready. I will be running a separate early Ford style bed. For those who have built one has it been a problem or should I not worry about it? Thanks, Lakerat.

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Old February 15th, 2013, 12:16 PM   #2
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Default Re: Roadster pickup pan reinforcement needed?

Lakerat buddy If I was building a RPU I would build some subframe connectors.
Maybe something that clamped on to the front beam with buggyclamps and on to the tranny mounts.
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Old February 15th, 2013, 01:08 PM   #3
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Default Re: Roadster pickup pan reinforcement needed?

VW added significant reinforcements to the vert for a reason. Easiest, but not cheapest is to just add VERT reinforcements, or copy them and add them yourself.
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Old February 15th, 2013, 01:08 PM   #4
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Default Re: Roadster pickup pan reinforcement needed?

I would at least replicate the added support rail that went under the heater channel on the factory convertibles.

Or you could always weld the doors shut like mine was!
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Old February 15th, 2013, 07:10 PM   #5
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Default Re: Roadster pickup pan reinforcement needed?

Questions:

Is your roadster pickup a topless?

Will the bed be mounted to the old rear body bolts?

Will the bed be affixed to the body to add support?

Will the front half of the body cover the full floor pan?

offroading, raceing, tractor pulling, daily driver, cruiser? maybe extending the front end?

All of these are needed to know the amount of extra supports you need, and where they should be placed.
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Old February 15th, 2013, 08:29 PM   #6
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Default Re: Roadster pickup pan reinforcement needed?

Roadster pickups are topless; hence the name "roadster". But, yes, topless and no front beam extention and running fenders also. The stock front sheet metal with '40 ford style hood will be intact. The bed I am building could be designed to attach to back of the truck cab to add stiffness. I have seen precut 1" x 10 gauge square tubing kits for bolting on the underside of the pan rails. Manx buggies seem to do fine without reinforcing but then again most have shortened pans. I just have not built a volksrod convertable before so I was just checking with you veterans first. Gain wisdom from others first and build right the first time. This will be a street cruiser.

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Old February 15th, 2013, 09:58 PM   #7
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Roadster pickups are topless; hence the name "roadster"
true true, but alot of people will toss some half ass roll bars under a carson top, looks like a rag, but its mostly hardtop. Not quite sure what kinda guy you were when I asked. We do get our share of nutjobs here... asking "how to fix a broken bolt"

Manx do ok because they don't have doors really, not just the shortnd pans.

We got alot of guys here that really tend to put in a 2x4 bars around the outside of the pan, the vert reinforcements are ok too. I'd attach the bed in the middle somewhere to avoid any flexing.

If I were makeing one, Id just weld up the doors and then channel about 4 inches out of the body for a meaner look and an easyer time getting out(unless you think you are that young). Then get the bed locked to the frame and body, no way you would have to worrie then.

If the welds arn't an option go with the 2x4 bars or the vert weld on's.
Hope to see a build thread on it soon.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 07:45 AM   #8
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Thanks for the replies, guys. I will do all the extra reinforcement I can In the initial design then. As for welding the doors shut idea it looks cool, but at 51 years old and bad knees, Dukes of Hazzard style car entries are not an option anymore. Lakerat.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 08:16 AM   #9
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Default Re: Roadster pickup pan reinforcement needed?

Here is a Vert Baja I am working on right now.
I am fixing considerable rust in that area of reinforcement
so happen to have a few pics
You can see its a pretty decent size support right under the door.
There is also a large piece from door to door on the inside.
Just like a standard were the Bench seat in back rests but much larger and welded to the body not bolted in. You can see it in the last pic. If you need any pics of a certain area just let me know and I'll shoot a few and post em up.


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Old February 16th, 2013, 01:38 PM   #10
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http://s50.beta.photobucket.com/user...tml?sort=3&o=7

if this link works you can see the aftermarket rails made out of heaver stock than original spendy but you weld them to the bottom plate of the existing heater channel

there might be better pics so explore the albums
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Default Re: Roadster pickup pan reinforcement needed?

here's a few pictures that show some of the factory vert reinforcements to the body.

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pan rails which is probably the most needed







If you want to keep your doors working, definitely reinforce the pan.
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