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Old May 31st, 2003, 09:39 PM   #1
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Somebody I know wants to make a roll cage for my bug, at least a partial one, so i can connect my harness to it.

If any of you guys have pictures, especially the mounting locations and how. It would help alot.

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Old May 31st, 2003, 11:34 PM   #2
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I put an old cage my father had into my car, just to bolt the harnesses to. The problem is the expense of a good bender, the cheapo ones won't do 90* bends or anything near that for that matter, without tons of wrinkles.

I'll snap some shots of it later...
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Old June 1st, 2003, 05:10 AM   #3
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Old June 1st, 2003, 08:08 AM   #4
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here youcan see a mount that was welded on the side of the seat track for the lap belts. There is one on the other side also by the emergency brake.
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Old June 1st, 2003, 08:10 AM   #5
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here you see the side bar that comes down across the door. Mounted low enough to climb over, yet keep you in the car.
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Old June 1st, 2003, 08:13 AM   #6
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here you can see the "hoop" that mounts behind each door pillar. And the bar that runs behind the seat connecting each side of the hoop. We use THIS bar to mount the shoulder harnesses to. Some people put a bolt through the belt through the pipe...we just used the metal things there and they are tied and secured around the bar.
You can also se the two bars going towards the rear window...those tie into the framehorns to stop any wheel hop and chassis flex.
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Old June 1st, 2003, 12:19 PM   #7
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thanks for all the pictures
I like your set up, but the only thing i don't want is the part that goes across the door opening. I won't be on any tracks with this car, and just need to have a safe place to mount my shoulder harness. Right now, they just go straight down behind the seat, and I've read that that's not right. Maybe something like the back half of yours.
Where does the section behind the b-pillar mount to, and how?
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Old June 1st, 2003, 02:16 PM   #8
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here is where it mounts to the floor. You can see the plate we put in first then welded the pipe too. Also...you can see the small bar on an angle going infront of the battery box...this goes to the tunnel for added support.There is another on the drivers side also.
Disregard the silver thing..it is a scooter handle bar...lol
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thanks for all the pics, I'm gonna show them to the guy who wants to make it for me.

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Old June 2nd, 2003, 08:18 AM   #10
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to do harnesses right you have to be very careful in their mounting location in relation to your seating position. i used to have a link to a site that showed all the related geometry but i can't find it anymore. the lap belt should be anchored where it will cross over the top of your thighs and attach to the floor just forward of your hip joints. it's purpose is to hold you down horizontally, i.e. up and down. too far to the rear and you risk internal organ damage, too far to the front and you can come out from under it. the shoulder harness needs to mount at a point about midway of your shoulder blades with a single mount for both shoulder straps. also a headrest should be incorporated to minimize the risk of whiplash. side intrusion bars can be hinged at the rear where they will lift up like in a carnival ride and lock to the "a" pillar bar in the down position. i plan for my rod to have a fully integrated roll cage like a drag car that ties into the front and rear suspension as well as the floor frame. my side intrusion bars will be built into the doors.
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Old June 4th, 2003, 08:30 PM   #11
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I didn't think about the "correct" mounting points. Sounds like you've been really thinkin about this lilbill.

Although, I did just realize that if i have a bar across the seat backs to mount the shoulder harness, I won't be able to recline the seats back, and sometimes I like to put them far back...for various activities and such.

hmmmm....this might not work.....

Will it still be safe if i make that bar removeable, like you want to make you side intrusion bars, lilbill.
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I have seen that done quite a few times... As long as it is securely mounted it should be fine... alot of roll cages have bolted on parts... like 6 point cages usually have the two rear points bolted on to get the thing out of the car... A thought though, if you have a bar across the top, and a bar that runs horizontally along the floor (like the bar you want but along the floor) it probably wouldn't be necessariy to have that... not an expert though, just tellin about some stuff I have seen.
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Old June 4th, 2003, 10:27 PM   #14
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gen, I still need the bar behind the seat, so i can connect the belts.

good pics chris.

hey lilbill, is that you on the12volt.com ?
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hey lilbill, is that you on the12volt.com ?
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Old June 5th, 2003, 11:54 AM   #16
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guess not. There's a guy on the forum over there, and his name is LittleBill.

take a look... http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_...?TID=13604&PN=2
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