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Old June 5th, 2007, 03:04 PM   #151
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LARRY I am in love with your dog he is so cute!!!
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Old June 5th, 2007, 04:39 PM   #152
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As a previous Boxer owner who did heavy research on the breed
before getting Jake (my boxer)... the docking of the tail is
actually done for a reason, not just because it "looks cool".

I can't speak for other breeds, but for Boxers, here ya go...

First off, Boxers that have had their tails left at full length are
VERY susceptible to broken or damaged tails in their adult life.
Sometimes these breaks continue to break in the same area and
reach a point where they just don't heal, ultimately leading to
amputation. This has led to months of agonizing pain for an
adult dog that won't stop licking at it until it's infected.

Secondly... Boxers tails are very long and thick at an adult
age/size. Their back ends are relatively "tiny" in comparison
with the chest area. Wagging carrying this thick long tail over
time almost always leads to spinal arthritis later in life.

So there you are... your lesson for the day.

The ears on the other hand ARE done strictly for a cosmetic
reasons, as far as I'm aware.
Some debate it allows better hygene, cleaning, etc...

... and just as "cruel" as taking a toddler in to have her ears
pierced in my mind. I mean, same thing right? Modifying the
ears for the sake of appearance?... Or we can make it
more dramatic and say... "taking the young helpless child in and
shoving a steel rod though her earlobes for decorative purposes..."

My boxer with cropped ears and docked tail was more well
taken care of and loved than any other NON-docked or NON-cropped
dogs I could think possible.

I miss my boy...





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Old June 5th, 2007, 04:41 PM   #153
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Oh... and Larry's boxer, Trigger, kicks total ass.

And he only pissed on me once.

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Old June 5th, 2007, 04:54 PM   #154
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Oh... and Larry's boxer, Trigger, kicks total ass.

And he only pissed on me once.

Why am I not suprised that you got pissed on?
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Old June 5th, 2007, 05:09 PM   #155
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I'm going to say some thing about the ears that I was told by my vet,(who is also a show judge). Boxers have a tenency to have more problems with their ears when left natural. Also, when you leave them natural they look like the flying nun. to get them to "hang" right, you have to tape them on and off for almost 2 months so you can slowly "break" the cartlidge in their ears.

This is all I'm going to say on the subject mainly because I'm really sick and tired of people that have no clue what they are talking about, having a coniption fit over cropping dogs ears and tail. I mean hell, why the fuck do they shave a goddamn poodle! Most of them aren't used for what they were bred for! But that is what the breed standard is and that's why people get them.

As for you Steve, Triggers pretty proud of marking your leg!


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Old June 5th, 2007, 06:33 PM   #156
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I'm going to say some thing about the ears that I was told by my vet,(who is also a show judge). Boxers have a tenency to have more problems with their ears when left natural. Also, when you leave them natural they look like the flying nun. to get them to "hang" right, you have to tape them on and off for almost 2 months so you can slowly "break" the cartlidge in their ears.

This is all I'm going to say on the subject mainly because I'm really sick and tired of people that have no clue what they are talking about, having a coniption fit over cropping dogs ears and tail. I mean hell, why the fuck do they shave a goddamn poodle! Most of them aren't used for what they were bred for! But that is what the breed standard is and that's why people get them.




As for you Steve, Triggers pretty proud of marking your leg!


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Well put Steve and Larry! After all the purist right! And Steve that is one hell of a nice picture of your dog!
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Old June 6th, 2007, 06:38 AM   #157
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Thanks Loren... he was a great pal.

And just for shits and grins... I'd really be interested in hearing from those folks jumping the gun without the facts... how is the cropping and docking any different than circumscision???

Oh... that's probably different...

Human children aren't cute fuzzy puppies
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Old June 6th, 2007, 07:05 AM   #158
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hubby has had a few boxers. His last had uncropped ears, she always had problems with them .I personally think it hampered her hearing. And hubby always said he wished he would've.

I've had dobies, with cropped and uncropped ears and tails. Looked like reg old hound dawgs. Being raised as gaurd dogs for a shop, nobody took the uncropped ones seriuosly and frankly they even acted non threatening.
If we ever get another boxer, it will be cropped.
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Old June 6th, 2007, 08:13 AM   #159
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And just for shits and grins... I'd really be interested in hearing from those folks jumping the gun without the facts... how is the cropping and docking any different than circumscision???

Oh... that's probably different...

Human children aren't cute fuzzy puppies
If there is a medical/hygene/survival reason for surgery on an animal or human, then I support it. Docking tails for dobies is done for the same reason you state for boxers, the tail is thin and brittle and breaks easily, therefore docking it saves the dog pain later in life. Not a bad choice. I had an Old English Sheepdog years back who was bobbed, not the same deal . The tradition of bobbing tails on working dogs goes back to colonial England and was strictly financial. Dogs without tails were working dogs and working dogs were not taxed(many breeds fall under this too, including Mastiffs, Rotties, schnauzer, etc). As a matter of fact, many countries have banned taildocking: Great Britain, Greece, Italy, Portugal, Australia, Belgium, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Germany, Iceland, Israel, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, South Africa, Cyprus, and the Virgin Islands.

The docking of ears on a Doberman? Not the same thing. Louis Dobermann wanted the breed he developed to have standing ears for a sleek look, this didnít work by breeding in dogs already exhibiting this trait. To achieve the peaked ears, Dobermann followed the example of many other German-bred dogs and had them surgically altered. Since then, many breeders have carried on his tradition since then. Shaving poodles? Not even in the same category, I doubt highly they even realize they look like pansies trimmed that way. We used to shave our Briard down in the summer for his comfort, and though he looked silly, he still could kick serious ass.

Other animals? Holstein dairy calves are "disbudded" at a very young age, generally a week old or so. Disbudding is where they cauterize the regions on their head where horns would grow. This kills the cells in the area so that they are unable to grow horns as they mature. It's generally viewed as a quite painful procedure, so using a nerve block or local anesthetic is common practice. Is it done for their safety? Not completely, it is more done for the safety of the handlers instead. How about clipping the wings of macaws and other birds?

Circumscising a child for religious reasons? Sucks. I feel the same way about that as I do about docking ears. If there is a medical reason (hygene, incomplete hood, etc) then sure, it is fine. Piercing ears? My daughter had her's done at the same age I had mine, 13. I think at 13 she could make the decision if she wanted to go through the pain or not.

I don't think I went off half-cocked and uninformed...but I don't want to start a big battle over this either. This is a great place to hang out and share a common interest in docking, clipping and bobbing VWs, not dogs. If I want a heated discussion about animals, I'm sure there are plenty of forums out there just for that. I don't think this is one of them. I just wanted to give support to my position previously stated. I will now shut up on the subject and get back to finding headlights for the Freak.
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WOOHOO! got my new dog from the shelter (finally)





we adopted her almost a month ago, but had to wait to have an operation (they won;t let ya take home puppies until they are fixed) and then it got sick (kennel cough?) so it took forever to finally get her home... some kind of jack russel/blue healer mix.. I can't begin to imagine the mechaics of such a coupling hehe

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Right on Fonzy! Hell with that kind of lineage she's probably going to keep you busier that you want to be!


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We...okay actually I decided to try our future daughters shoes on our Wiener Dog.

He didn't seem to mind!
(Then again, he's always been a little light in the loafers)

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Heehee... that rocks.
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Right on Fonzy! Hell with that kind of lineage she's probably going to keep you busier that you want to be!


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hehe well I already have a 4 year old blue healer and a 10 yo akita that have been keepin this puppy wore out since it came home. I hardly get a chance at all to play with her:)
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Here is some updated pictures of Larry's dog Trigger who now lives with my daughter and her family. He is the tan boxer and the other one is Harley my daughters dog! By the way,Trigger is almost a year old now!









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I still see he's a puss!

Damn he's getting big. I miss the hell out of him!



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Damn he's getting big. I miss the hell out of him!



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He can stand his own pretty damn good against Harley,they both give as good as they get!
Yes he has gotten big and now needs to start getting some girth on him!
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Not pet tricks, but, pics none the less...


Yeah, she doesn't like her picture taken!

But, my Cat is a Ham!




This is where my Gecko lives...


My old fish tank... I need to get pics of the new setup since I moved, I now have a 125! this was my 75 I traded for the 125...
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Great Looking Boxers guys... I love Mine

I'll post some picts of him later - BOXERS are the best dogs, total clowns, funny, happy farty dogs
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i never really liked cats, but about two weeks ago this on showed up on my porch crying, hungry and missing half his tail.i brought him in, and fead him real good. now im stuck with ol' stuppy. hes not so bad.
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(This is Carin)

My sister had a Big Boxer, and he LOVED BEER.
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i never really liked cats, but about two weeks ago this on showed up on my porch crying, hungry and missing half his tail.i brought him in, and fead him real good. now im stuck with ol' stuppy. hes not so bad. <a href="http://s234.photobucket.com/albums/ee106/hotrodhenry/?action=view&current=0222081225.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee106/hotrodhenry/0222081225.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
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My sister had a Big Boxer, and he LOVED BEER.
I grew up with a pair of St. Bernard's that would steal beer if people set it down on a table or the deck. They would just walk off with it and drink it.
Those were great dogs.
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Here is some updated pictures of Larry's dog Trigger who now lives with my daughter and her family. He is the tan boxer and the other one is Harley my daughters dog! By the way,Trigger is almost a year old now!


Awesome shot... sure can't mistake those shadow sillouettes.

Oh man... thanks for those pictures Loren.
I've been thinking of getting either another Boxer or a Boston Terrier... but my heart really lays with the Boxers. Really debating it, but these pictures are putting me over the top.

Trigger is looking damn good!
He will start filling out more at about 2-2 1/2 years. Male Boxers go through a lot of changes right around the 2 1/2 year mark, both physical and behavioral.

It's been over 5 years, and I still miss my Jake as if it was yesterday. Haven't been able to bring myself to get another since.

Sure got a lot of fuckers nudging me in that direction lately though...





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