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Old February 8th, 2008, 01:41 PM   #1
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OK, after all the hijacks and OT posts, I thought we should have a 3 wheeler thread where we can talk about our other obsession.

This is the latest I've seen.


More info, don't copy the design you might get "sewed".

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Old February 8th, 2008, 02:43 PM   #2
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I think I referred to that one on the New Shit thread - this one's local and much slicker:

http://www.tiltingmotorworks.com/

Both tilt when cornering!
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Old February 8th, 2008, 02:46 PM   #3
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i guess if im going to chime in im going to throw a vw into the discussion
one of several vw designs that have come out this is one vw did using the drive train of a golf it looks allot like the passat form the early 90s but this design came out in 86
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Old February 8th, 2008, 02:55 PM   #4
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Well, if you want a VW-based 2F1R trike, here's my notion:


Type 1 engine/trans
Rabbit spindles (FWD)
Gazelle (kit car) fenders
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Old February 8th, 2008, 03:09 PM   #5
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Well, if you want a VW-based 2F1R trike, here's my notion:


Type 1 engine/trans
Rabbit spindles (FWD)
Gazelle (kit car) fenders
if you flip the ring and pinion on the trans you will have the engine out front ( in the cooling air) and the shifter will be a short shift rod but it would lay within the drivers reach without any wild linkages it would be right between your leg area with a universal on the shift rod it could be placed like a jockey shift h idea for the front suspension would be golf jetta you could just pick the parts right off the shelf and still ahve 13 inch rabbit wheels
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Old February 8th, 2008, 03:37 PM   #6
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if you flip the ring and pinion on the trans you will have the engine out front ( in the cooling air) and the shifter will be a short shift rod . . .
I know, but I don't want the engine out in front of the fenders (without me on it, there'd be no counter-weight behind the front wheels sufficient to keep the rear end on the ground). Besides, the trans out front reminds me of an old Bentley supercharger . . . .


If I build it, I plan on using a cable shifter (designed for a mid-engine dune buggy) to avoid tricky linkage designs.

I borrowed ideas heavily from the project Steve0620 is building.
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Old February 8th, 2008, 03:50 PM   #7
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I wouldn't ride the one that Michael(mkparker)posted. Those (shock towers) are just welded to a small plate on the lower control arm without any gussets. What's going to happen when you are doing 70 mph down the road and that weld snaps? Also the ball joints look over extended when it is leaned over. The seller needs to be worried about getting "sewed" not sueing someone. Looks like anybody could hack the front off of a 4wheel ATV and make the same thing. Thats all he did.
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His video bills this thing as the worlds first tilting reverse trike,but there is at least one Yahoo group filled with them.

I think a link was posted in an earlier tilting 3 wheeler thread here.





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OK, after all the hijacks and OT posts, I thought we should have a 3 wheeler thread where we can talk about our other obsession.

This is the latest I've seen.


More info, don't copy the design you might get "sewed".

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Old February 8th, 2008, 05:11 PM   #9
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It definitely needs gussets on the bottom of those vertical tubes,
and something to limit travel,so the tubes don't come in contact with a A-arms.

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I think I referred to that one on the New Shit thread - this one's local and much slicker:

http://www.tiltingmotorworks.com/

Both tilt when cornering!


Hell, that is a V-MAX!.........Whoever built that Damn thing must have a Death Wish.
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Old February 8th, 2008, 06:55 PM   #11
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His video bills this thing as the worlds first tilting reverse trike,but there is at least one Yahoo group filled with them.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/tilting/
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Old February 8th, 2008, 08:05 PM   #12
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Hell, that is a V-MAX!.........Whoever built that Damn thing must have a Death Wish.
Here is another,"Death Wish" I encountered at a restaurant in Indiana awhile back.The fenders and tank are carbon fibre,the suspension is trailing link,and it had a BBS wheel on the sidehack.Built in Germany for Autobahn running.RIGHT!

The other,"thing" is a custom bodied glass trike.The rear bulkhaed has the rear half of a 750 Honda-matic bolted to it.A 12v starter motor is used to reverse it.Basically the starter has a rubber,"tire" in place of the drive and it is levered into position to rub against the tire to back up.Kind of MM but is was built 25 years ago.
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the first one with the trailing link is actulay the best way to have a suspension on a sidecar the trailing link doesnt have the same issues of high speed wabbles and it doesnt get the shakes on deceleration the way standard forks do

the second thing is a tri magnum designed by RQ Riley http://www.rqriley.com/tri-mag.html
the tri magnum uses a ladder style frame and a vw front beam


who is also responsibile for allot of vw creations since the 60s
they also designed enclosed 1F2R
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Old February 8th, 2008, 08:27 PM   #14
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Well, if you want a VW-based 2F1R trike, here's my notion:


Type 1 engine/trans
Rabbit spindles (FWD)
Gazelle (kit car) fenders
you said it would be nose heavy they have been bilding this in europe for years and i tried to buy the company a few years ago ( it was for sale)
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Old February 8th, 2008, 08:54 PM   #15
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The one I posted is an ugly piece of poop IMO. With a 110cc Chinese motor, I don't think you'd have to worry about going 70 mph down the freeway though.

Hopefully we can put various 3 wheel ideas here in one place. I don't get to the new sh*t thread much.

Here is a factory Harley Version (patent pending)


More info here.

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Old February 8th, 2008, 11:10 PM   #16
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In this state (WA), a trike is expected to have a handlebar (not a steering wheel), and you sit astride the vehicle (not inside it). One of the trickiest parts to design is a handlebar-to-front-wheels linkage that is a) not twitchy in the straight ahead position, but b) can turn fairly sharply at slow speeds so the turning circle isn't huge.

Crack Monkey's volksquad uses what looks like a ATV linkage that would be very sensitive at all speeds . . . hence the addition of a steering stabilizer.


If there's a simple, non-geared linkage that's a little dead in the center and progressively more responsive as you approach the L/R locks, I'd like to see it.
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Old February 9th, 2008, 12:32 AM   #17
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http://www.maxmatic.com/ttw_moto.htm
web page with some cool tilting trikes history/info, even some from the mid 1940's


I have a few VW based trikes on my site gallery too (search keyword "trike"). split window reverse trike (pict taken in 1954):


This one's my fav:


this one's definitely different


Also some idiot here bought this trike home earlier:
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Is that Billy Idol,or Russel Mitchel,in the background ?

Not nearly as cool as the trike Ron Finch built.
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It doesnt really need to be said but I would make this my daily driver in a heart beat!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnNKT...eature=related
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Ever wonder why dogs get run over by cars ?
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talk about UNstable what allot of fun to take around a farm road but i dont know how well it would do on the daily commute
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Not nearly as cool as the trike Ron Finch built.


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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this one yet:

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/01/04/v...press-release/
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this one yet:

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/01/04/v...press-release/
It's not really something we could build ourselves . . . .
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I know, but it is VW related.
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