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Old April 6th, 2008, 07:27 PM   #1
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Default Suicide door hinges and latches

Hey gathering parts for the 67 project. Just wanted to see what everyone has used when adding suicide doors to their bugz? I am looking at the Rocky Hinge Co. setup as the hinges are already aligned and sure seems like it would make life easier. I have done some searching and ready but want to hear some rear world experience from you guys that have done it and what setup you used and the good and bad from it. Thanks guys
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Old April 6th, 2008, 08:47 PM   #2
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I used hidden style hinges from an iraqi army truck for mine.
I built pockets for them out of two inch square stock.
Mid to '66 ford f150 pu's had very similiar hinges.
They even have bolt in pockets, if you can find one in a junkyard, get the pockets and just weld 'em in. Then you can unbolt your doors easily.




As far as latches go, i wouldn't suggest anything but the bearclaw setup. I used the mini hinges that the have, as the size of the regular setup is too big for the bug doors.

I also went for thier install kit, was a great setup went in smooth and clean.


The first pic (link) is the third time round doing my doors. Take note of the location of the hinges. The first go 'round I used an old Hot VW's article on doing suicides with the OG stock hinges, and a set of early bus latches. I tried it, didn't like it at all as th stock hinges flexed alot for some reason.
There's a guy with a pink bug come to the classic all the time. His is done with stock hinges, and if you walk up to it, you can see the paint cracked on them from ten feet away.

The second go round was with the iraqi hinges, but in the "stock" location on the rear door post. Worked great up until I tried to open my doors. They would open up to about halfway before the center of the door hit the rear quarter panel in the middle of the arc on the side of the body... no good.

So the third time round, moved the hinges in farther toward the center of the arc, and bingo.... perfect clearance. My doors open just slightly farther than ninety degrees from the car. And, the hinge pockets create their own door stops.

Hope this gives you some ideas...

I have some more in progress pics, shot me a PM with an email addy if'n ya want 'em.!

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Old April 13th, 2008, 12:21 AM   #3
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I have heard nothing but good things about the bearclaw setup.
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Old April 13th, 2008, 04:47 AM   #4
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I use Rocky Hinges and his bear claw setup, ive had nothing but good luck with his product and he is in my back yard.
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Old April 13th, 2008, 06:26 AM   #5
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I talked to Rocky himself on Friday and he set me up with all the part numbers I need to get everything. Super nice guy and very familiar with VW's so if anyone is thinking of going this direction he is the man at Rocky Hinge Co. and no they are not in Colorado.
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Could you give us a list of part numbers that you are going to use?
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i used rocky mt hinges. I highly recommend you getting a pre-alligned kit. I know of a few seasoned car body guys that installed stock hinges and took them at least 3 tries before it was perfectly alligned. If not aligned it will bind and won't open/close properly...and paint may flex and chip as mentioned earlier.

The drawback with getting most kits are they are alot thicker than normal hinges, so you'll have to cut into below the rear 1/4 window area, which will interfere with the rear 1/4 panel upholstery
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Does anyone have any pictures of the upholstery with the suicide hinges
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Old April 14th, 2008, 09:31 AM   #9
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Rocky part numbers listed as requested!
HK 003 and comes with pre-aligned hinges, bear claw latches
This kit is about $300 + shipping
MSL 001 Safety Pin locks with LED indicator. $59 + shippiing These are the manual locks but they also offer automatic locks for a little more $.
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Thanks for the part #'s!
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Does anyone have any pictures of the upholstery with the suicide hinges
Not with uphostery, but you can see where it will have to go.



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