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Old May 6th, 2008, 02:30 AM   #1
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Hi Guys,
I'm Ken AKA "YelLowBug" and i'm from from Belgium..
it isnt close to home and my english probably sucks
but i've got the feeling that everything here is to nice..
so instead of drouling on your cars i want to and and build me a volksrod..
this is what i bought..

and when it was standing outside like this the idea began..

so guys any tips or tricks?
there is one little catch..
all the beauties you guys build couldn't get on our streets in a million years...
so i want to build a Belgian streetlegal VROD..
everyone here says i'm crazy but hey that whats makes life interesting...
so any hints tips tricks or whatever.. let me know i will keep my project updated under the YelLowBug topic
thanks in advance and keep on , and them..
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Old May 6th, 2008, 04:24 AM   #2
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Hey Ken, your English is at least as good as mine, but I'm a Texican"!! Cool Bug, be sure and go through all of the reader's rides pictures and make notes of what you like and what is "legal", try to come up with a plan and get to work. Welcome.
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Old May 6th, 2008, 10:30 AM   #3
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Hey......I understood you English a WHOLE LOT Better than I do SOME PEOPLE on here.

Like MkParker Said.......Find what you like, Balance it against what is Legal in your Area, Stir in some original Ideas and get to it.

I just got my project running and am trying to decide on a direction from here. One thing about this Journey, changing your mind is not only permitted, it's encouraged.

Glad to see you on here. Welcome!
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Old May 6th, 2008, 10:40 AM   #4
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Welcome Ken ! In 50 years of playing with cars I have never ended up with what I intended when starting a project. Don't be worried about changing your mind as you go, and don't be afraid to stretch the boundries. Looking forward to seeing what you do. Good luck !

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Old May 7th, 2008, 12:03 AM   #5
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What are some of your main concerns with making it street legal?
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Old May 7th, 2008, 09:43 AM   #6
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No fenders and the stretched wheelbase are very likely off the table.
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Old May 10th, 2008, 07:25 AM   #7
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indeed,
i'm now searching for all related articles about belgian law..
very complicated...
and in a nutshel; no beamextenders , you must have fenders.. but i'm gonna make them custom like on a lotus super 7, and about every part you use must come with a C or c approval or TUV approval..
so now i'm searching the books for to find the rules and then be creative with them...
nobody i know did it, i saw one earlier but it was a trailerqueen.. and hey building a trailerqueen is to me is like watching playboy, why are u spending your money on it if you cant take her for a drive..
so will try to go were no men succesfully has gone before..
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Old May 10th, 2008, 07:44 AM   #8
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By the way, funny story..
when i bought the car there were no papers left..
so i went to the police office to ask them for new ones and they were going to come by my house to check al of the cars numbers and stuff so i could file a loss of papers..
he showed up..
so i pushed the car out and the funny stuff began..
"can i reach the vinnumber without getting myself dirty?"
Yep over there and over there (if you see the pics thats how she is now)
"colour? euh beige or is that white? mmm it used to be red ha? euh no i think the tryed to paint some red but did'nt get a very good job.."
"aha there are parts black.. and it your hood yellow?.."
"euh just a little"
"let me just write down euh.. white.."
"ok what is the reading on youre mileage?"
"euh.. i dont know there isnt one in the car"
" do you have one?"
" mmm (after a long search i found one in a box of vw stuff) here is one but now i see this one looks like it is from a 70ies convertible so i'm not gonna use this one.. just write down zero"
"engine(out of curiosity)?"
"some bits and pieces left enough to make one to short to run it now.."
"and your gonna drive it in.."
" 'bout a year or 5"
he found his work to be completely useless
wished me much luck (alltough i did not know if he mend it) and took off..
but hey as long as i can file my papers the rest is
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Too funny...remember, fenders can be made quite subtle....or hard to see.

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Old May 17th, 2008, 08:20 AM   #10
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so i made me a topic on the projects page
so you'll can see where i'm going at..
http://www.volksrods.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21184
so yet again, post me your remarks, tell me what you think,
nobody here likes it, they all tell me to go original (damn purists) so i don't get much advise here...
greetzz and keep on
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Old May 18th, 2008, 12:22 AM   #11
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Would they actually know if you put a beam extension on? I think the subtle fenders are the way to go.
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Old May 18th, 2008, 01:20 AM   #12
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i guess so, every year we have to get our car checkt in an station leaded by the governement so there is no merci,and when the cops doubt it, they take you to such a station... whenever they suspect you did something "wrong" you're screwed..
also when you get into a crash and you're not thesame as shown up at that station..
i guess i don't have to make a drawing...
i'm going to try to make some fenders in the next few days and see how it will work out...
i'm checking out all the legal writings now..
133 pages of legal mumbo jumbo... wish me luck...
greetzz
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Old May 18th, 2008, 04:06 AM   #13
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Freedom is wonderful thing.
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Old June 7th, 2008, 05:19 AM   #14
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You can say that again..
all this f*ckn rules are making me completely
but i'm not giving up so easy..
first i have to buy me a new chassis so a lot of the rules dont caunt.. cause mine was a good year but it was registered for the first time a few months to late..
grrrr...
i'm trying to experiment to make me some fenders but no luck yet...
next try tomorrow... so keep em crossed..
greetzzzzzz
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 01:55 PM   #15
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ok all bets are off.. it's on now
there is no f*cking way to get a Vrod on the streets here
i'm ever so pissed
cause if you drive it and you crash you can pay for another guy for the rest of your life if it gets ugly...
i'm not gonna take that risk..

but i'm o so crazy 'bout Vrod's
and you never see them around here and i want to see one..
i'm building a trailerqueen
,experiment, use the book of road-law as , and drive it at closed meeting grounds and circuits..
ok maybe i'm but i'm mostly

by the way any tips? i'm not a welder,but willing to learn..

greetzz
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Old November 23rd, 2008, 02:04 PM   #16
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Well, instead of stretching the wheelbase, shorten the body and the pans.
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Old November 24th, 2008, 08:07 AM   #18
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well, i live in the netherlands and have the same problem, body change isn't a big problem, changing the wheelbase is. so i decided to go the kinda dunebug way. take old chassis. change the body and have it aproved as buggy.
i dont know bout the belgium rules bout beachbuggies, but that might be the way to go for you too. otherwise, have it aproved as beachbuggy in netherlands and re-import to belgium (no laws against that :P)
added drawing of the car im gonna start building soon. i chopped roof, instead of lenghten the roof, i shortened body behind doors, and doors itself so body is shorter to get the volksrod look. i also did small sectioning of the body to make it not look so high
good luck and hope you all like the drawing.
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kinda forgot, this was the original drawing of a beetle so you can compare the "minor" changes :P
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i found my inner Vrodder last weekend..
our club was invited for an indoor car show and i got the YelLowBug out..
almost all classic and original oldtimers (and so were the people there, 13 euros entrance,, so you can imagine the stuckup people..)
played "some" tunes once in a while, and they started nagging
so em lets see how they react when next year i leave the YelLowBug at home and come with a cut up beetle..
so first i need to get the car back together and pass belgian oldtimer inspection and then i'll start
that's my goal set towards next year
and be a genuine shit stain on their monet car show

by the way when are the Vrods.com plates comming back in i'm waitin' for them to order me some shit..
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Old August 6th, 2009, 01:18 PM   #21
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just updated a little i'm gonna have to redo the whole car for technical inspection before i can cut it bummer...

planned a whole lot of work to do on my vacation but 2 funerals stood in the way both my girlfriends grandfather aswel as mine died in a weeks time...

so back to carry on after work... it'll be a rod someday
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I just got my project running and am trying to decide on a direction from here. One thing about this Journey, changing your mind is not only permitted, it's encouraged.

Glad to see you on here. Welcome!
I'll agree with that, i've changed mine probaly 5 different times on 10 different parts. All in 6 months.

does anyone know any wierd legal issues in Colorado i my not know about coming from cali?
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people who live in colorado don't like people from california.

turn around now.

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but seriously, since california is so stringent, should be EASIER to get clear of inspections n such in colorado.
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What are you NOT allowed to do in Belgium ?

I'm guessing beam extenders, flipped beams, and Ford style axles are not allowed.
Are motorcycle style fenders allowed ?

Some guys have moved the front of the body back, on a stock pan,
to get the altered wheelbase look.
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What are you NOT allowed to do in Belgium ?

I'm guessing beam extenders, flipped beams, and Ford style axles are not allowed.
Are motorcycle style fenders allowed ?

Some guys have moved the front of the body back, on a stock pan,
to get the altered wheelbase look.
the question is what IS allowed to do in belgium?
the guys you're refering to are probably guys from Holland, overthere they check out the chassis, and what they build on top has different rules, they can also build cars theirselfs as long as the car has 80% original car parts or so (no matter how old or wich brand)

in Belgium it's completly fkt up, no altering anything,...
a car has to be stock, if you change anything you need the approval of the manifacturor, en the VW-folks are euh.. let's call it.. purists...

for everything you change you need papers, if you lower a car, you need papers and get it checkt so they know al wheel angles are respected height is minimal 11cm...
change youre rims and they will be measured..
change the steering wheel-> papers from the manifacturor..
and so on...
every year at the technical checkup the check out the car and for every aditional checkup they need to do (paperwork, rims,steeringwheel,lowering,wings,spoilers,amplifi er-fuses...) it'll cost you a additional 7 to 14 bucks PER check

found a guy, let's say a friend from a friend, who can give you a new certificat of conformity (if the price is right)so he is the constructor, and he goes belly up once in a while, so nobody is responsibel when they say an accident is occured because of the shape or technical condition (fabricator error) of the car..
but when nobody is responsibel, they dig deeper, en YOU actually fabricated the car en then you're pockets are empty..

so another chance i'm not gonna take, so trailerqueen it is..

first basic rod, then chop it, suicide doors, hey if it's going on a trailer, i can do whatever i like..
and maybe one day (my litlle dream) ship it and do some with you guys...

greetzzz
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