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Old January 29th, 2009, 03:12 PM   #1
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Boy what a wake up call. Been in the hot rod world most of my driving days. some practical some not so. Built and had motors built. But the prices you guys pay for a mildly wild motor, streetable driver. The web sites. I've taken from here for what I thought I wanted. Lets just say I'm not ready to give up a child for lol. What kind of HP are some of ya gettin? Forget MPG performance coolness does'nt = dependability. but starts @ 7-12 grand it can. Yikes! Am I missin somethin?
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Old January 29th, 2009, 03:14 PM   #2
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I missed somethin......what are you saying????
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Old January 29th, 2009, 03:16 PM   #3
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What kind of mills are you runnin -engine-
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Old January 29th, 2009, 03:25 PM   #4
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stock 1600 drivetrain in my square and a 1641 in my bug. and unless you spend close to that kind of money for a "street" engine or build it yourself for about $2k-$3k your bug will "feel" slow. going from v8 300+hp to air cooled 65hp is a completely different animal.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 03:29 PM   #5
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Thats what I'm finding out. I don't mind the pace I just can't get over the cost. 7-12 grand is BBC with some extras.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 03:30 PM   #6
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I was hoping 4g's would get somthing other than stock buzzing bug engine
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Old January 29th, 2009, 03:33 PM   #7
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stock here too!! hell its all i can afford!! but i kinda like it too?
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Old January 29th, 2009, 03:37 PM   #8
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yeah $4gs will get you about a NICE quality built 1776-1835 but don't forget that up to a certain point the stock transmission have to be beefed up. Now you know what kinda money some people here have in there rides is actually more than quite a few "hot rodder" folks have in theres.
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What the hell are you trying to build? For 7-12k you can get a nice race motor put together, balanced, blue printed and jizzed on. Sure you can spend more, but come on you can put together a nice 1600 for 3K or a 1914 for 4 or 5k.

Who are you talking to about building an engine...berg?

I am currently getting a 1914 with SS pistions, balanced, new ported heads for less than 5k.

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Old January 29th, 2009, 03:43 PM   #10
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These are some pretty hotrod VW motors for $4K for reference:

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They do get pricey for big HP motors though....good news is it doesn't take near as much HP in a little ol' Bug to go fast. But if ya gotta have a V8, no reason not to go for it!
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Old January 29th, 2009, 03:47 PM   #11
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engine in my car is a 1641, done with changed heads , 110 cam, and playing with the carb. Set up to a freeway flyer tranny. It'll shit n git it with no problem.
We're as broke as anyone else. MPGs are good, depending on who is driving it
This engine has alot of miles on it, probably did when we switched the new stuff to it.
He wants a 1776 to go in it next, but I'm quite content showing the universal love symbol to the ricers and other buttheads in their suvs, stangs, and hemis who think all bugs are slugs and tail gate me




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I am running a 1914 that a friend and I built for right around 4k. its quick enough to be a fun ride.... and it gets off the line faster than some of the ricers out there...


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Rotary engine. Have about 900 in it total so far and it is rated at 150 horse or so.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 04:51 PM   #14
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I think I spent about 3K back in 2003 to have my 1776cc built by a shop, and it definitely had some get up and go. with a stock transaxle, I've gotten it up to about the 130mph range and if I drive it calmy I can still get about 30-35mpg..

Right now I'm building a 2276, and I'm spending a LOT because I want what appears to me to be the BEST parts I can reasonably afford. so far all I have is a case and some heads on the way and I've already spent about 2K...

I anticipate that I will probably have about 5K invested in this motor when I'm done, for 7-12K, like everyone said, you should be able to get a downright drag motor. Hell most long blocks I see for sale aren't more than 5K. I would have been better off financially buying a longblock like that, but I REALLY want to build one with my own two hands and truely know it inside and out, so I'm going the longer more expensive route..
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Old January 29th, 2009, 05:30 PM   #15
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My then girlfriend (now wife of 29 years!) bought me the 351 I dropped in the transporter for $400.00. Truck tranny w/compound low was a hundred bucks, 9" Ford rearend, $15.00, late disc front end $50.00. Amount in bucks `n sweat for two years to get it on the road, priceless.
With 3.00:1 axle, 29" rear tires and 600 cfm AFB she gets down the road at 17 to 19 mpg. Not bad for a 3500 lb aerodybricklike rig.
Glad I hung onto the her, looks like I'm big bucks ahead..he said smugly. Course right now work's dried up and I couldn't afford to start a project like this either in $ or effort.
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There was 2909 turbo type 4 for sale on samba for $5k. also, i just paid my friend to build a type 1 1776 $1300...expensive, you can build a motor real easy
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Somethin got misconstuded some were.. I'm not spending 7-12g's only quoted prices i've seen on web sites posted from here. Only lookin to spend 3500- 4 g's
pariah, I likes the route your goin. No matter how hard I try to be different just like everyone else, I'm the same cheap ass lookin for the deal of the century.
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Old January 29th, 2009, 05:38 PM   #19
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Old January 29th, 2009, 05:40 PM   #20
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uh, sp? Tellin ya green as they come
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Old January 29th, 2009, 05:41 PM   #21
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1835 (69x92), stock crank (balanced, drilled 8 dowel), Engel 130 cam, stock heads (ported, polished, and punched out for 42/35.5 valves) duel 40 Weber's with custom linkage, intakes are match ported/polished to heads/carb bodies. Comp-u-fire in the 009 dizzy with a little "tweakin" to the advance springs and weights, firing a Bosch "Blue" coil. Stock flywheel, chromoly gland nut, 1700 lb. P/P, and cushlock disc. I've also found that (on my application) stock pulleys work better that the alloy ones.


And the total cost was around $1000.00 after all the machine work and parts I didn't have on hand.

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Sp stands for single port.
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Late 1600cc, 1500cc and 1300cc, standard case used on any high performance build, are DP or dual port cases.
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Yes it does, thank you. Long block?
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"WHEN" I had my 66 bug, I bought a brand new short block. It was a 1914cc and I paid I think only $1400 or so from some place in cali. That thing would shit and git. It would pull the front end off the ground. I have a friend with a 65 mustang with a 289 in it and I could keep up with him easy for a short ways, but It did it. MAN, I MISS THAT FUCKIN CAR, BAD.
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