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Old April 18th, 2011, 01:29 PM   #1
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New to aircooled VW's and this forum. I have been busy playing with watercooled VW's and decided a few years back that we wanted an aircooled VW. We found a Thing near our house and we had to have it. The car had all sorts of issues so I parked it in the garage until I could afford to build it. We took the body off the pan and POR 15 everything. I replaced every cable, hose, hard line, bushing, bearing... Bought a 2276cc turnkey motor w/ Dual Weber 44IDF's and Freeway Flyer tranny, Airkewld air ride setup, 4" Narrowed beam, Wilwood Front disc brake conversion, shitty EMPI rear disc conversion, custom whitewalls from Diamond Back, pulled off the front fenders, straightened out wiring... This past summer we took it out on its maiden voyage. We had a packed car and one of the rear bag mounts broke off and the car slammed down. It caused a rear trailing arm to bend. As a quick fix I had a buddy of mine straighten it out until I replaced the trailing arm. I have found some boxed "beefed" up trailing arms (stock dimension) and will weld new mounting plates to them. Does anyone have any experience with lowering an IRS with those boxed trailing arms. I need to weld some mounting points for the shocks on the arms and figure what to do about the top bag mounts. I want this to lay frame. I also plan on installing a beam extender. Anyone have experience with this extender?http://www.peglegmetalwerks.com/beamext.html
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Old April 18th, 2011, 04:09 PM   #2
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Hmm.. Airkewled... figures...
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Old April 18th, 2011, 04:39 PM   #3
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Probably the majority of the beam extenders on this site were done by tinbeater (pegleg). Last we heard from him he was taking a long needed break from that biz. Contact Dbug41. He's taken up the beam extender mantle and run with it. if you got ahold of one from tinbeater it's all good too.

Um, aircooled. Unfortunately You have proof of the shortcomings and typical results of his rear bag "system". save yourself the dime and don't waste teh money calling looing for any help from Pete. Take a look at the work Cliff did solving the problems with the Airkelwed shit on Ratlook63's chassis. niiice.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 04:48 PM   #4
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... Airkewled shit ...

That says everything right there.

If he put some of his advertising dollars
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VW world would be a better place.

A few people here have tried his junk,
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Old April 18th, 2011, 04:55 PM   #5
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Sorry, I dig your Thing.

We just get all fucked up and off track as soon as we see people spending their hard earned money on a "system that is good for nothing but twisted metal and wasted $$.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 06:03 PM   #6
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Love them Corrados.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 07:14 PM   #7
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That says everything right there.

If he put some of his advertising dollars
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VW world would be a better place.

A few people here have tried his junk,
some gave up, other reworked everything.
Some people have pissed him off by suggesting his pics gave enough info to simply copy his product and save the thousands of dollars he charges for it.

The Thing is cool. Love them, want one.

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Old April 19th, 2011, 02:13 AM   #8
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Thanks for all the feedback. Unfortunately as a noob I was on the Samba and saw Airkewlds advertising everywhere and doing some searching around alot of people swore by Airkewlds product. I also was able to contact Pete throughout the whole transaction and when ever I had a question he was always there. I had a good experience with Airkewld, my only real gripe is the top mounting bar that the bag mounts are welded to. We bought a chromoly bar to replace the bar in the kit and welded the top bag mounts to it and with all the weight in the back (had 3 full size adults) a pressure point was created on the weld and a chunk of the bar broke off causing that side of the car to slam down. When I pull the body off were going to re-engineer the way that was mounted. I contacted Dbug41 about his beam extensions last night and will be purchasing one very soon. Thanks for the info. I also had a PM that recommended him for the extensions. Im going to check out what was done to Ratlook63's chassis.
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Old April 19th, 2011, 03:27 AM   #9
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Thanks for all the feedback. Unfortunately as a noob I was on the Samba and saw Airkewlds advertising everywhere and doing some searching around alot of people swore by Airkewlds product. I also was able to contact Pete throughout the whole transaction and when ever I had a question he was always there. I had a good experience with Airkewld, my only real gripe is the top mounting bar that the bag mounts are welded to. We bought a chromoly bar to replace the bar in the kit and welded the top bag mounts to it and with all the weight in the back (had 3 full size adults) a pressure point was created on the weld and a chunk of the bar broke off causing that side of the car to slam down. When I pull the body off were going to re-engineer the way that was mounted. I contacted Dbug41 about his beam extensions last night and will be purchasing one very soon. Thanks for the info. I also had a PM that recommended him for the extensions. Im going to check out what was done to Ratlook63's chassis.
His ads do have lots of pretty pictures.

don't get me wrong, ther's quite a lot of his non mechanical products that I find very cool if that's the look you are after( I've got a set of his dial faces for my buggy), but stories of mismatched brake components, poorly spec.ed hardware, missing hardware and just poor design. Glad to hear he was alt least nice to you. Doesn't sound like he offered or provided a SOLUTION to his inadequate design, but hten again, It sounds like it wasn't something he provided that failed, but something you had attempted to use to correct an obvious deficiency in his product. Make it beefier!

BTW, the shock tower castings were never designed to carry the weight of the car....

If the car was designed to carry three adults, his design should AT LEAST accomodate and support that.
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Old April 19th, 2011, 05:01 AM   #10
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I never considered the weight of the car resting on just the shock towers, hmmmmm. Well the rear has to be redone now anyway because of the rear trailing arms. When I pull everything apart we will look at how to overkill supporting everything.
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Old April 19th, 2011, 05:13 AM   #11
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love the raddo. miss mine.... ahhh someday.

thing is looking good. keep it up. i dont think you will be able to lay frame though without some smaller wheels and tires
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Old April 19th, 2011, 05:17 AM   #12
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Take a lok at this month's "Crazy Bastard of the Month" Tory Smiths air ride build. His rear bag mounts are probably the stongest I have seen.
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Old April 19th, 2011, 01:15 PM   #13
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http://www.volksrods.com/forum/showt...ight=cliff+bag

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Old October 1st, 2011, 08:00 AM   #14
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Well after a long battle with the Thing its officially on the road. Thanks for all the links and insight. Got DBug41's 8" beam extension and had the front braced. We used boxed trailing arms in the rear and braced the rear really well for the rear bags. I will dig up build pics but this is the final product.


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Old October 1st, 2011, 05:20 PM   #15
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Old October 1st, 2011, 08:04 PM   #16
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love it!! ooohhhh I can see the purist faces now ha
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Old October 1st, 2011, 08:16 PM   #17
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Plus, you can park her ANYWHERE and you won't have to worry about picking her out in a crowd.
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Old October 2nd, 2011, 02:00 AM   #18
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Jeez I have pursits hatin on me, lol. Thanks for compliments!
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Not a huge fan of the extended front end, but Ill be damned if it doesnt fit the body lines perfectly.
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Wow, looking fantastic. I also have a beam extender from Doug for my Thing project. Can't wait to get it rolling!
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Oh yeah, looking forward to seeing the build pics!
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looks cool. ... and i still love the raddo
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