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Old May 4th, 2012, 01:41 PM   #1
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Default Got my floor pan steel, quick question.

Hey there, I just got my floor pan steel in and I want to start welding but in the front it looks like there is still some old pan in there. I did not take the two or three bolts out of the the front of the pan (I just cut in front of them) when I took out the old ones cause I did not know if they held in the firewall or anything else important. Do they? This is a 71 Super. Thanks! Any other tips or helpful tricks about it would be great too, I am always trying to learn something new!

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Old May 4th, 2012, 02:49 PM   #2
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Pics would be helpful.
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Old May 4th, 2012, 03:14 PM   #3
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This should help :)

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Old May 4th, 2012, 03:17 PM   #4
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Sorry. Here you go. The right one is taken from underneath. See how on the left it looks like a second or third layer? and on the bottom the bolts go thru the cross member looking thingy that goes over the tunnel. That's why I thought they might be important. Thanks!
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Old May 4th, 2012, 03:21 PM   #5
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Thanks WVobug!
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Old May 4th, 2012, 03:43 PM   #6
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I read the about article, id didnt tell.....Id say yank em out. If theyre holding part of the pans in place....sorry im not more help

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Thanks, Feuer!
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in the front it looks like there is still some old pan in there.w!
let it rust a little more
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Old May 4th, 2012, 07:18 PM   #9
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Brother... you need to get a carbon wire brush on a grinder and peal off all that ugly, not sure I can even see what needs to be removed other then the rust.
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Old May 4th, 2012, 10:01 PM   #11
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Yeah I have not done any of the prep yet for the weld, but will for sure. I need to go get another can of copper based weld thru primer, just for some added protection from the rust coming back from the welding slag between the two peaces of steel. That was one of the reasons that I didn't unbolt that front part and cut it how I did was to leave a lip to weld to in the front but it is looking rough, I will see whet it looks like after the wire brush.

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"This is the small piece that is left under the front and rear chassis support that cannot be removed with the body on." That was in one of the info threads....DAMN! Oh well, if it were easy OR practical to build a Volksrod then everyone would have one and it would not be worth doing. Oh well. Bout to go fire up the old air chisel, grinder, and welder and just wing it! Here wee gooo!

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S O A B!!! I just remembered why I don't weld in a sleeveless cotton shirt! Oh well, another scar to add to my collection. It's not like you get your deposit back on this carcass when you are done with it so you might as well have a few scratches and dents! Back to burning metal, will post pics later.
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well, I got all of the rust off, got more weld thru primer, (Zink based not copper like I prefer, but it will due) and got half of one pan cut, fitted, ground, beveled, prepped, primered, and welded in. Only one fire! Even let my son practice welding some. That 12 gauge makes a REALLY SOLID PAN! (Eat it Wolfsburg!) I am happy with it, glad I didn't go any thicker than 12 gauge, I broke my power sheers on it as is! Also, the cut in my tunnel that is in the 3rd pic, I have seen that in a info link before. There is another one just like it two feet in front of it on the same side. Is that from the factory like this or do great jack legs think alike!? Are there any reasons that I shouldn't weld them shut what is behind there?

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Only one fire! Even let my son practice welding some. That 12 gauge makes a REALLY SOLID PAN! (Eat it Wolfsburg!)

Also, the cut in my tunnel that is in the 3rd pic, I have seen that in a info link before. There is another one just like it two feet in front of it on the same side. Is that from the factory like this or do great jack legs think alike!? Are there any reasons that I shouldn't weld them shut what is behind there?
I caught my v-rod on fire like 4 times already... some smart guy filled all the holes with sealing foam. Also IMO 12 guage is very solid.

Those tunnel cuts are from some lazy ass mechanic or previous owner that changed out the E-brake/heater cables on the rear side. The front one is most likely the same guy that did the clutch cable. Some people do it backwards... If you want to make it kinda custom and easy for later make them into acsess doors, I personaly hate that people make those cuts . With the amount of rust im sure that some holes in the bottom of the tunnel at one point could have let the elements attack the cables... make sure you check the gas line and cables befor you seal that thing up.
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Old May 5th, 2012, 08:43 PM   #16
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Doc, I bet that's it. The E-Brake has these two cables one on each side of it, each with a little adjuster do-dad and they look new-ish. There is also a lever on each side with a small Black ball handle on it. Are these the things that open and close the two back heat vents? These cables DO look pretty bad where they cross from the tunnel to the heat tubes. If so I will fix them and check everything in there, hose it down in there with rust stoper and then probably throw a few welds on there for extra protection from a banana shaped Beetle. Every little bit helps! Thanks!
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Yep, those are just to open the heater channels... if you are makeing a V-rod your mufflers will have to remain somewhat stock. If you are getting an offroad type set up or classic hot rod you may just want to remove those while you have that open, give the iinterior a cleaner look over all. If you are going 12 volt with alternator set up you may want to look into an electric dash mounted heater... if heat is needed anyways. Theres a number of things you can do to clean up the inside that will make less parts to replace later.
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