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Old September 22nd, 2012, 12:36 PM   #1
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Both front corners of my pan project are crusty. I decided to just replace the end of the napoleon hat and bottom plate. My idea was to keep as musc VW metal as possible. After welding the drivers side in place I bought a replacement floorpan. The nub on the hat didnt line up with the outer channel of the pan half. So, I ground, cut and slid the part over. I don't have my Bug body handy to measure and compair. I guess this is my question, is the aftermarket floor pan an accurate guide for this cross member. The holes need to line up with in reason to the body. The passenger side is actually a little different, thats what steered me wrong. Plus, I bought the floor afterwards.

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Old September 22nd, 2012, 01:15 PM   #2
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Default Re: Napoleon Hat/Floor Pan Measurement

The Nap. hat and frame are probably more accurate than the pans. I've had to hammer, weld, cut and shut the edges of my pans a few times to get them to fit.
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 01:45 PM   #3
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I cut up the replacement nap. hat and bottom plate, so I lost the measurements.
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 05:40 PM   #4
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I'll dig around and see what dims I have.
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 05:46 PM   #5
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Default Re: Napoleon Hat/Floor Pan Measurement

I have the total width of the nap hat at 30". I'll keep looking for the dims between holes.
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 05:52 PM   #6
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Okay, the length from the outer holes center to center is 27.48" Center to center between the inner holes is 25.11" The distance between the two holes on each side (center to center) is 1.1850"
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 07:10 PM   #7
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Thanks, those numbers match my bottom plate holes. But, not really the hat holes. Holes can always be elongated. I'm just worried about the firewall fitting. Is there a lot of play in that area? Can you mease from the tunnel to the nub that matches up to the pan channel? Thanks again and no big rush.

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Old September 22nd, 2012, 07:34 PM   #8
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You're making me go out into the cold, dark back yard!... Give me a few minutes....
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 07:41 PM   #9
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9.375" to the raised bump.
10.5" to the indent between the bolt holes.
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Old September 22nd, 2012, 07:42 PM   #10
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From there you just have to beat on the pan a bit to fit.
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Old September 23rd, 2012, 06:01 AM   #11
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WoW, that helped a lot! The holes are just way off and that where I did all my measuring from. Thanks!
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Default Re: Napoleon Hat/Floor Pan Measurement

I just spent most of Saturday making a channel to fit into mine, the bottom of the body from left to right is rusted & has started to collapse, the channel is to weld in to replace where it's rusted

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Old September 24th, 2012, 08:41 AM   #13
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No problem. I survived... I have a full pan back there if anyone needs any dimensions.
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That's what I got my dimensions off of AND double-checked on the pan. Thanks for posting it.
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Old September 24th, 2012, 07:29 PM   #16
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Just remember, the centerline of the front axle on the bottom picture is actually about 6" rearward of what they show.
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Default Re: Napoleon Hat/Floor Pan Measurement

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No problem. I survived... I have a full pan back there if anyone needs any dimensions.
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I have a piece of a 66 pan out back that I used to get some ball park figures
I decided to leave it alone & build a custom pan attached to a complete IRS torsion housing I have had laying around, I can just build the body drop into it & retain the stock suspension


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Thank ya Doug for that 1st one with the body to pan bolt dimensions, I'll be needing that once I start getting all the pieces cut & tack welded together

I was using the 2nd one for everything else, I think it's missing 1 or 2 critical dimensions, but there is enough to figure the rest, if not I'll just make it however I want

I could tell that the "front axle center-line" was really the center-line for the lower front torsion tube

I hope anyone else using it was able to figure out that the wheel-base wouldn't be 94-1/2"

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