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Old March 9th, 2014, 05:00 PM   #1
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Re:: body between the wheels   

So I havent gotten very far yet but I figured I would start a build thread now. I picked up a 73 standard back in August/September last year and I tried to just drive it as is because my last couple projects just kinda burnt me out, and being a first time parent eats up ALOT of my free time and energy.

Basically driving it unmolested only lasted so long and I got bored so here we go!

Around november I got a 8" beam extender and brace from Dbug

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So I got that installed and started to try and figure out a way to get the body between the rear wheels

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So it hasnt been acomplised yet, but the plan of attack is going to be widening the rear torsion housing like the sand rails do and adding an extra 4-4.5 inches per side.

I'll also be doing away with the torsion bars and adding bags and the heim joint spring plate things so I can lay pan and have the body between the Wheels!!!

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Ive been wanting to build a roadster....

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And then I canibolozed a piece from the mud pie SB and layed it on to give you guys an idea of where im going with it


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Old March 9th, 2014, 05:19 PM   #2
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That line from the SB really does look nice there. This going to be interesting. So is it going to have a top or are you just going to floor it when ever it starts raining
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Old March 9th, 2014, 05:55 PM   #3
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Hey - you have it right - being a parent does slow things down a bit - but that is a good thing! It also makes everything so much better! Good for you!


As far as the build goes - I like it! Great use of the front cowl. I think this will be a fun one to watch.

And when Jeff chimes in about selling your kids - just tell him to go fall down a sand dune! He doesn't get it.
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Old March 10th, 2014, 04:08 AM   #4
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Thanks guys! Of course I'm just going to just drive faster when it rains, isn't that what everyone does?

I plan on making some sort of soft top for it, but that will probably be towards the end.

After doing some digging it seems like the roadster that look "right" to me all use the sb cowl, (heb-roid) being the main one, but there quite a few others that have pulled it off well!

Hahaha selling the kid would probably move the project along faster time and money wise, but I think I'll keep him around. He can help with the next one that's due in September. And in a few years they can come help me built stuff
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Old March 10th, 2014, 05:56 PM   #5
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Small update, snuck out to the garage for an hour or so and got a couple things started

First under the cancer vw foam I found a random chunk of wire harness that looks like it got very hot at one point, actually the shielding is melted


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Then I started fitting part of the sb cowl.


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So far so good, starting to think my vw is build with bondo and rust...or did they come from the factory like that
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Old March 11th, 2014, 04:51 PM   #6
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liking this build a lot
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Old March 11th, 2014, 05:21 PM   #7
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Likin' your plan... Very cool!
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Old March 13th, 2014, 04:50 PM   #8
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Thanks guys!

Something I've been thinking is what kind of reinforcements should be adding?

I'd like to continue using the doors and still have access to where the rear seat used to be as I'm thinking that's where I'm going to put the air tank and compressor.

Suggestions and examples appreciated.
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Old March 18th, 2014, 11:42 AM   #9
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Looking good...
If you want an easy way to do the radius behind the back seat use the top of the windshield frame you cut off. It will look really good and add structure. You have to widen it a couple inches but can be done with some conduit or schedule pipe. If you use conduit sand of all the galvanized shit with a flap wheel. when you weld that shit it is extremely toxic and can get you hella sick if you breathe it in. As far as structure study how vw did it on convertibles. You can get it nice and stiff and people will never be able to see where you did it.
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Old March 18th, 2014, 03:40 PM   #10
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If you want an easy way to do the radius behind the back seat use the top of the windshield frame you cut off. It will look really good and add structure. You have to widen it a couple inches but can be done with some conduit or schedule pipe. If you use conduit sand of all the galvanized shit with a flap wheel. when you weld that shit it is extremely toxic and can get you hella sick if you breathe it in. As far as structure study how vw did it on convertibles. You can get it nice and stiff and people will never be able to see where you did it.
Thanks for the ideas Papa, I have been checking out the verts and I'm going to try and emulate them as close as possible.

Small update, more patch work done


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I think ill try your idea papa for blending it back into the body.

Scored a nice standard hood to sacrifice for the rear cover at the local yard for $30


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Old March 18th, 2014, 04:55 PM   #11
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I thought for a minute that you were going to build a stoll coupe.lol. I too used a hood for the back deck lid on my roadster. I put a slice down the middle and stretched three inches at the top which I also cut straight across. She is looking good and hope to se here when she is done.
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Old March 18th, 2014, 04:59 PM   #12
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Old March 18th, 2014, 05:12 PM   #13
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That thing is gorgeous! It looks like I'm going to have to widen it up a little, but I think I'm going to attempt combinding the top half of the hood with the deck lid... Some how
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It's possible to join the two parts.




Using even more front hood like you have planned, the more natural curve you'll get before it transitions to the rear deck lid.


Look forward to seeing what you do. Keep it up
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Old March 19th, 2014, 04:01 AM   #15
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Thanks for the pics Mark and the encouragement, That helps me visualize where I have to go with it.
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Mark,I have never seen that coupe. That is slick.
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Old April 9th, 2014, 05:35 PM   #17
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Small update, been busy finishing the kids rocking iron horse and trying to figure out the job situation the roadster has taken a back seat. Went out tonight and separated the body from the pan so I can see how much needs to be patched and start to work on the frame for the rear bags.

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Old July 5th, 2014, 09:45 AM   #18
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I love when I type a big long post and the website deletes half of it!

Anyway small update since its been awhile.
Got the floor pans tore off, literally only had to lean on them and they came right off.

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Then flipped the control arms, cut the shock towers off the pan, and installed pacific coast customs hiem joint spring plates, which I will say required a large amount of machining to even become usable. Installed the front airshocks, and will be doing a cantilever setup for the rear once the plates get water jetted at work.


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Been playing with the idea of using the 32 grill again also



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And since most of us here like making stuff, I figured I share some of the stuff I've been designing/ machining at work.


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Old July 11th, 2014, 11:30 AM   #20
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Update
Got the stuff cut out on the water jet this week, as so far its looking pretty good for the cantilever setup. I have to tweak the control arm mounting position a little but for the most part it looks like it'll work!!!

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This is such a cool project.....puts my efforts to shame. I'll be watching your progress fella. Good luck.
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Definitely loving how this is coming along. Looking forwards to seeing it done! Keep it up man!
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That is so cool. You are going to have them show, right?
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Old July 12th, 2014, 12:40 PM   #24
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