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Old February 10th, 2016, 04:14 PM   #101
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Nice Work! Very innovative.
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Old February 11th, 2016, 11:54 AM   #102
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cool. will there be a firewall for safety?
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Old February 11th, 2016, 02:34 PM   #103
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This thing is a death trap no matter what so I wasn't really planning on a firewall. No seat belts either. Probably no gauges. Maybe something's wrong with me but I just don't care about that extra stuff.

I don't really drive like I did in high school anymore. Tend to stick to surface roads and keep my speeds reasonable. Detroit is a desolate wasteland that I feel comfortable driving an unsafe spaceship looking vw around in.
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Old February 11th, 2016, 03:38 PM   #104
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Tell me tat you're not using a site tube for a gas gauge and that you smoke...
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Old February 11th, 2016, 04:58 PM   #105
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Well I am using a sight tube, but I don't smoke. Was joking with a friend though about how sweet it would be to keep dry ice or a fog machine in there to create a more space ship like effect every time you open the bubble.

I'm pretty convinced that the most dangerous part about the gas tank was welding the old filler neck to the new extension. Even though it had been dry for probably a decade, I'm pretty sure I saw it flash as if the gas/varnish traces ignited. Far less dangerous than when I cut the top off an empty 55gal drum with flammable stickers all over it with a torch. That thing sounded like a rocket for a good 10 seconds when the fumes lit up.

All this safety talk makes me feel like I'm on a Prius forum or something...

What happened to the spirit of 'cut weld drive?'
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Old February 11th, 2016, 05:12 PM   #106
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Maybe my next build will be a vw based replica of the 'Sir Vival' safety car from the 50s. Just to counterbalance the death trap taking shape in my garage right now.

It actually is kind of an interesting challenge to build a safe aircooled vw based vehicle. actually I think there was one in the abortions thread on samba recently.



Looks like fun! Someone should build one with a beam extender and chopped windshield. Hahaha
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Old February 11th, 2016, 06:45 PM   #107
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Well I am using a sight tube, but I don't smoke. Was joking with a friend though about how sweet it would be to keep dry ice or a fog machine in there to create a more space ship like effect every time you open the bubble.

I'm pretty convinced that the most dangerous part about the gas tank was welding the old filler neck to the new extension. Even though it had been dry for probably a decade, I'm pretty sure I saw it flash as if the gas/varnish traces ignited. Far less dangerous than when I cut the top off an empty 55gal drum with flammable stickers all over it with a torch. That thing sounded like a rocket for a good 10 seconds when the fumes lit up.

All this safety talk makes me feel like I'm on a Prius forum or something...

What happened to the spirit of 'cut weld drive?'
Volksrods = Safety Third!!!

Really love this build, great innovation, reminds me of the golden age of KUSTOM cars from the sixties and seventies... keep up the great work
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Old February 12th, 2016, 06:27 PM   #108
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regarding the issue you are having with the metal warping a little... the thick stuff, you can planish the welds and cause them to relieve some of the shrinking that happend. I've done it before on a tube frame I was building to bring things back into square. In the case of the stock being proud, hammer on dolley at the spot it starts to rise. Very local, controled movement. You want to stretch the metal to open up the curve that has hapened.
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Old February 12th, 2016, 08:07 PM   #109
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Actually, that was feeble attempt at humor. I used to have a friend who called my V8 Single Cab a "death trap." His theory was that with eternity being about two feet in front of me and the Ford V8 being about the same distance back, if I was ever in an accident I'd be a "sheet metal sandwich." I pointed out my sturdy brush guard, front disc brakes and very loud set of hrns I built a 24 gallon tank which fits in the original engine compartment. If I really got hit hard I might be in the 'Cut Weld Boom' thread. If it were all about absolute safety we'd never build anything.
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Old February 13th, 2016, 09:04 AM   #110
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I figured yall were just pulling my leg. I mean we deal with old school Volkswagens, safety isn't really in the vocabulary.

Almost got into a head on wreck in my 60 single cab on a two lane highway down in tx 2-3 yrs ago. Terrifying experience. Old dude in a Ford Edge decides to turn left in front of me while I'm doing 60. Knew he was gonna do it. Won't stop me from driving vws.

Might try to do the plannishing trick on the hoops. Been workin on attic drywall, too cold for garage.
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Old February 13th, 2016, 12:42 PM   #111
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I like what you're doing with the top of your fuel tank, sort of 'hood within a hood' version of those Russian doll goodies.
Yup, driving an old VW these days can be, um, interesting. I find that driving with my lights on helps a bit.
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Old February 13th, 2016, 07:34 PM   #112
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just wait until everyones in self driving cars. yikes.

sketched out a more up to date version of what this thing will probably look like when done.

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Old February 13th, 2016, 07:50 PM   #113
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That's totally slick! Like a lot of complex projects, the drawing make it look simple, if that make any sense.
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Old February 13th, 2016, 08:21 PM   #114
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That's totally slick! Like a lot of complex projects, the drawing make it look simple, if that make any sense.
I've been driving down to San Francisco for the last ten days to visit my wife in the hospital. From the 'drivers' I see on their cell phones, I think most of them believe they already own self driving cars.
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Old February 16th, 2016, 12:26 PM   #115
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managed to get a bit more done on the tank before my cut off wheel exploded and cut me nice and deep. suppose that's what I get for ranting against safety features.

anyways, got my wounds super glued shut, so heres the update. got tube for steering column welded in place. this was a total bitch. realized after cutting the hole in the tank and tack welding the tube in that the steering box end was misaligned to the box. had to get creative with a ratchet strap and some random scraps to correct the misalignment. then realized that effort had tweaked the whole tank such that the two ends were slightly out of alignment. milk crates and body weight corrected this issue well enough, so then it was time to hammer/weld/hammer/weld until all the seams were closed. and results:





not sure yet if this will get trimmed down more.

heres a shot showing the alignment of the column and box. still going to need a u joint but at least its lined up properly in the vertical plane.



also got the fuel line bung welded into the bottom of the tank.



thinking I will make the line exit out of the rhd dimmer switch area. that should make it look like it was designed to be the way it is.



was cutting out some baffles for the inside when the wheel exploded, but other than baffles there isn't much keeping the tank from getting finished. 6-7 shop hrs should do it. probably gonna wait a while to heal up and work on attic stuff instead for a few days though.
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Old February 16th, 2016, 01:47 PM   #116
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Ouch! I'm glad to hear you'll heal up alright.
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Old February 16th, 2016, 02:51 PM   #117
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Been there, done that, now wear heavy gloves, long sleeves, and a face shield. I'm old enough that I don't heal as quickly as I used to and can learn from past mishaps.
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Old February 16th, 2016, 03:43 PM   #118
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At the tender age of twelve, I discovered how the wheel on my dad's homemade bench grinder (old washing machine motor w/adapter) could come apart just after I switched it on. One piece fired off across the garage, leaving a serious dent in our hot water heater, and a serious mental impression on me.
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Old March 2nd, 2016, 12:50 PM   #119
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basically healed up but been working on the attic apartment instead of the car. too cold outside.

have a question though. does anyone have any ideas whether this pitting can be welded up and filed down or would it be better to use some sort of filler and paint the piece?



any leads on aluminum welders who would take on the challenge for a good cause with reasonable compensation here in the Michigan area?
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Old March 2nd, 2016, 01:06 PM   #120
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Anyone want to see what a cutoff wheel did to me? 7 stitches and a lovely scar on my right knee.

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Old March 2nd, 2016, 04:20 PM   #121
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Ouch! Um, I'm a little unclear on why you were using a cutoff wheel on your knee.
Regarding the pitting on the aluminum. From the amount of pitting, I'd say go with a filler.
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Old March 2nd, 2016, 08:18 PM   #122
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I was squatting down and the disk jammed/ shattered then kicked back. Got a nice pair of scars. I'll tell people who ask that is was a bar fight with ninjas.
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I was squatting down and the disk jammed/ shattered then kicked back. Got a nice pair of scars. I'll tell people who ask that is was a bar fight with ninjas.
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Yup, I heard that those turtles can be tough.
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Leonardo was such a bad-ass....
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Devcon aluminum filler
Bonds to aluminum and many other metals
Fills porosity in aluminum castings
Can be machined drilled or tapped using conventional metalworking tools
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