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Old February 21st, 2016, 11:14 PM   #1
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My first two cars were Bugs, my grandmom's 68, and then a 70 body on a 66 pan ragamuffin. That was long ago, and I really haven't had a VW since (well, there was a pitiful attempt at a Manx, but we won't talk about that).

A couple weeks ago, I picked up a very sad little guy. It's a 63 vert body on a 68 pan, with an odd "conversion kit" thrown at it to make it look like a Heb. I've made a couple posts and asked a couple questions already, but for the sake of consolidation, I'll limit my shenanigans to this thread.

The more I look at it, the more horrible things I see. But hey, at least I can't screw it up much worse.

I've got a 10 out, 3 up extender coming from Doug, and while I'm waiting on that, I'm redoing the electrical.
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Old February 21st, 2016, 11:15 PM   #2
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Old February 21st, 2016, 11:20 PM   #3
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Yeah, all the wiring is that bad. I'm ripping all of it out and making my own harness from scratch. This is my collection of new goodies so far:



All mil spec switches and breakers. Marine terminal blocks, and waterproof relays for headlights and turn signal/brake isolation. Cheap, supposedly waterproof led indicators. Yeah, that's an ejector seat pushbutton. That'll be the starter button
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Old February 21st, 2016, 11:22 PM   #4
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Lovely steering shaft extension. Yeah, every joint is welded in place
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 05:37 AM   #5
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Not a bad looking project really.
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 08:40 AM   #6
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I really needed another driver, not a project. 2 Harleys and a boat should be enough.
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 09:56 AM   #7
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After seeing the wiring, I had this sudden craving for spaghetti. If that short length on tube at the steering shaft carries a load, there are ways to attach a lube fitting with it in place.
Think or your project as a soon-to-be-driver. She's gonna be cool too!
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 01:33 PM   #8
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I wonder if that is one of the Hebmueller kits from Spectre BGW. I talked to him years ago when he was still working on the molds but I've heard so many things in recent years I'm never sure if they are actually still in business.
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 03:07 PM   #9
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Not BGW. It's really cheesy. There's a rear deck sorta piece that's riveted on, with expanded metal vents; and a semi decent glass Heb decklid. There's a solid rod perimeter frame for the decklid. A small spun aluminum tank is in the back
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 03:11 PM   #10
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The beam extender is 7.5" out and no drop. The one I'm getting is 10" out and 3" drop. So the steering is irrelevant.

The pic doesn't show just how scary it is.
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 05:48 PM   #11
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10" extension, the box will hit the hood.
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 07:38 PM   #12
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I'm aware. I'll either move it to the center or just cut a hole in the hood.
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Old March 6th, 2016, 11:17 PM   #13
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So I've been playing around, mostly removing more and more of the horrible crap the PO put on the car. I'm glad I'm saving it from either further butchery or being scrapped, but damn, this poor thing needs a lot of help.

Anyway, I'm still trying to figure out what to do for taillights. I put dual 50 Pontiacs on my dad's old trike, and I'm really fond of them. But I'm not sure if they'll look right on the Fake Heb. I pulled the awful trailer lights today, and slapped the lenses on where I was thinking they'd look OK. Still unsure. Also thinking of 30s Willys lights.
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After lots of head scratching and searching, I finally decided on some repop Model A lights in all black with LEDs. So they're on order. No turning back.

Was really wanting to run Rocket Wheels, but in order to speed up the process, I'm gonna stick with my smoothies for now. The fronts are 4.5, I think, and the rears appear to be a reverse at about 6-7". Gonna pull them and have them powdercoated, either red or black. Unless I get crazy and decide on a funky green or purple
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Old March 9th, 2016, 04:16 PM   #15
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Decent looking, hopefully worth $50 apiece
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Old March 25th, 2016, 03:24 PM   #16
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Final major decision made, I think. It was killing me trying to figure out how to do the dash. I hollered at Big Wig about having an aluminum dash made. I just think that it'd end up being too pretty for the car. Trying to keep it a rat rod, ya know. Anyway, I remembered I had this slab of 1/4" aluminum that Hurricane Katrina deposited on dad's driveway in the Keys. All corroded, but solid. So I traced out the glove box onto it and cut me a couple panels. I think these will do nicely once I get them and the dash trimmed to fit
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Looks like a good idea.
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Metal with a history, perfect!
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Old March 28th, 2016, 02:21 PM   #19
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It will be only a slight notch in the hood.
My 10" - 1 1/2" drop extension only required like a 1/2" notch.

I might be swapping it out for a 12" 2" drop one though, so it will require a much bigger notch.
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Old March 28th, 2016, 04:12 PM   #20
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I pulled the filler panels the guy added to the front of the wheel arches. The body was wrecked at some point, hence the use in a Volksrod. It really needs a lot of metal work to look right. A cut in the hood for the steering box ain't no thing
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Old April 3rd, 2016, 11:31 PM   #21
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Got my wire order in from Waytek the other day. Last of my relays showed up yesterday. Cut a piece of plastic that used to be a seat in my mini tugboat to make this panel. I'm sure i could make it smaller, but I like to be able to get my fat fingers on everything all easy like
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Delivery from Brown Santa yesterday. Woop!
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Old April 6th, 2016, 07:16 PM   #23
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I looked this car over at BugJam in November. It was rough to say the least. Good luck with the project.
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Rough is being kind. I was kinda hoping nobody would recognize it.
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Old April 6th, 2016, 11:03 PM   #25
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I've wanted to build a Volksrod for a long time. First fenderless Bug I saw was one Thom Taylor drew for Hot VWs in 88. Wasn't until I saw some other VW rods drawn by Steve Smith that I knew a Voksrod would be awesome.

I don't want to cut up a pre 65 car, but I don't want a post 64 car.

This car is a turd, but it's a 63, so I get my early body without being the butcher who ruined it. It will never be pretty. I don't think the fiberglass "Heb conversion" CAN be pretty. So it'll be ragged and fun.

Worst comes to worst, I'll make it into a Berrien T Roadster
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