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Old April 11th, 2016, 10:29 AM   #1
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I bought this car about 8 years ago with grand plans to build something stupid. Unfortunately when you build vehicles for a living your own projects tend to get set aside a lot. In the mean time I bought a house with some land, built a new shop, built a lot of off-road cars, did a bit of racing, and started working on a second career flying airplanes. I've also been collecting a lot of parts along the way. Now it's time to start actually building.

Here are the basic specs.
  • 1968 Beetle, body shell only
  • full custom cromoly tube chassis and roll cage
  • Custom A-Arm Front suspension with Cantilever mounted Coilovers
  • 4-Link Rear suspension with Fox Coilovers.
  • Chevy 4.3V6 bored and stroked to 4.7L, roughly 300hp, front mounted.
  • 700R4 Transmission
  • Ford Explorer 8.8 rear end. Limited slip, disc brakes, etc.
  • 17" Ford Police Interceptor wheels & tires

The idea is to build a road race car, with a bug body and some hot rod style. Goal is to be under 1800lbs, which should make for some ridiculous power characteristics.

Here's what I started with.

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Old April 11th, 2016, 10:44 AM   #2
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It's been sitting in the corner of my shop for years, and I've pretended to get started a few times now, but pretty much all I got done was removing the pan and chopping off the parts of the body I don't plan to re-use.





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Old April 11th, 2016, 10:45 AM   #3
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Here is the planned general stance and wheel placement.

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Old April 11th, 2016, 12:52 PM   #4
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The one part of this project that is the farthest from my normal skill set is the front end. I build 4 wheel drive off-road racers for a living, and most of them have solid front axles. I'm quite comfortable with various link suspension setups, but IFS is something I've never really toyed much with.

I'm using some aftermarket Mustang II parts in here, mainly because they are available everywhere and cheap, with lots of support. I'm using 2" drop spindles, disc brakes and a Mustang II steering rack. The rest I'll be building myself. I also want it to be very adjustable, and easily adjustable. To help with the design process I've been building a lot of the parts in solidworks before actually cutting them out. Step 1 was the lower control arms. They will be primarily machined from 7075 Aluminum, and will provide for very easy camber and caster adjustment.

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Old April 11th, 2016, 07:42 PM   #5
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It's easier when you don't look at the AvGas receipts.
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Old April 11th, 2016, 11:22 PM   #6
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Old April 12th, 2016, 06:57 AM   #7
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Yup, she looks good to me with her nice 'hot rod' stance. What does Avgas go for a gallon these days?
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Old April 13th, 2016, 09:46 PM   #8
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Yup, she looks good to me with her nice 'hot rod' stance. What does Avgas go for a gallon these days?
Depends on the airport. My home base is near $6 a gallon. I can fly 10min in one direction and get it for $4.35, and 10 minutes in the other direction and it's over $8. Just depends on the size of the airport and how bad they want your business. If there are commercial jets coming in, you better get ready to bend over.

I got the outboard control arm ends cut out and welded together the other day then rough machined the aluminum adjusters. I'll come back once the car is getting closer to finished and add the wrench flats, taper the ends and polish them up nice. For now they are just gonna stay raw since they are gonna get tossed around a bit during the build.







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Old April 14th, 2016, 07:00 AM   #9
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A V8 Volksrod is on my to do list, watching in anticipation
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Old April 14th, 2016, 09:10 AM   #10
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I'm a big fan of modded 4.3s. V8 power in a significantly smaller package, and they are bulletproof.

I will say however, if I didn't already have this motor from one of our old race cars I probably would have done a supercharged 3800. Even smaller packaging with just as much power potential. And boost!
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I spent a bunch of time playing around in solidworks figuring out the front suspension dimensions, and getting an idea how I was gonna build things. The first major part of the chassis to design is the shock crossmember that fits between the lower control arms. It'll be cut and formed from 1/8" sheet steel.





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Try this Suspension Dimension toy
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Old April 17th, 2016, 11:31 PM   #13
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well that's a fun little time waster there. Thanks.
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well that's a fun little time waster there. Thanks.
It sure helps with suspension characteristics though, huh?
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Old April 18th, 2016, 06:40 PM   #15
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Oh yes. One could spend eons playing with setups there.
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Turning virtual into reality.







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See... Now that shit right there is cheatin'!

I'm jealous of the machinery for sure. Great looking start.
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What, no sabre saw and cut off wheel?
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Old April 20th, 2016, 10:17 AM   #19
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What, no sabre saw and cut off wheel?
Those are just for when I make mistakes with the drawings.
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Beautiful work!
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Looks great. How many years did it take to accumulate all the nice tooling?
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Been doing custom stuff of the Off-road world for about 13 years now.
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I'd like to say I'm jealous, but I can barely use a mill.
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I wish I had a mill and lathe to play with. Miss the days of working in the machine shop and being able to make anything.
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