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Old September 4th, 2016, 01:57 PM   #1
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Hey guys long time eh?

Well I'm here to pick your brains.

I am debating on turning my 1968 into a full fendered bug truck.

However, I actually want the bed to be functional and not higher then the bottom of the Windows. So... What engines do yeah lot recommend?

I am thinking type 3 would be the easiest... If I could find one, granted a type 4 engine may work.

I think a corvair engine is flat enough to work, yet I am not 100 percent sure.

Also what is the best (easiest) way to go about making a bug truck? No I do not want a fiberglass kit. I want to make a mini welding truck
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Old September 4th, 2016, 04:08 PM   #2
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Old September 4th, 2016, 04:43 PM   #3
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Having run Corvairs in a '62 Baja, a full fendered '71 bug and at one time the Single Cab, I'd go with one of Uncle Ian's suggestions. I ran the full Corvair power trains in each, and a lot of fabricating is required. In spite of what you may hear, the Corvair is a reliable engine, and compared to a similarly tuned VW, pretty much bullet proof. Running the dual or quad carbs will keep things low.

A friend down the road runs a Subie is his Vanagon (he did the swap himself). It's a daily driver for his bicycle business and reliably as hell.

Mostly, the interchangeability and availability of the VW stuff will likely save you a lot of time.
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Dan had a flat bed truck that looked easy to do. Roof and body were cot toy the bottom of the windows and the flat bed attached there. Rear engine cover was un-modified so no motor change needed to be done.
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Looked at the bug trying to figure out the body lines and just how high I want this to be.
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The typical flat bed isn't exactly what I am shooting for. A corvair swap would be a dream. Somebody offered my mother a type 3 square back for nothing and she declined. Trying to see what is available out there.

My issue with the flat bed is I want to haul things with it.

Did a quick research on a Subaru swap. Holy hell. I thought that'd be an option, but once again sourcing a parts car is difficult, and seeing just what you need... I don't think that would be an option.
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Ah. I hear ya. You want the sides of the bed that high, not the bed itself. My bad

If anyone is interested, Dan has it for sale: $3000
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Since you are typically "MR. Outside the lines"... how about doing a Bed that opens on the side instead of the rear. So you can still haul stuff... use it as a welding truck, etc...

It won't ever be a "bog truck" as you suggest, using a VW Beetle as a base. A single cab is truly more suiting to your needs.
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Since you are typically "MR. Outside the lines"... how about doing a Bed that opens on the side instead of the rear. So you can still haul stuff... use it as a welding truck, etc...

It won't ever be a "bog truck" as you suggest, using a VW Beetle as a base. A single cab is truly more suiting to your needs.
If I had 30k for a single cab I'd snag one.

I was having the same idea. Except using a ford 302. that way it could actually haul things and I could get some creature comforts like AC and heat. If I go for a EFI 302 like in my 1986 crown Vic then I know it'd get at least 21 mpg ( that's what my Vic gets) overhang would be easy to solve, and ford v8's are cheaper around my neck of the woods then anything vw. Id still want the v8 in the rear though.

Just the transaxle has me questioning.

Edit.. Re read what you said and now understand what you mean. Like the old corvair trucks.

That might work. I was thinking about doing what was done with the single cabs. A flat raised up bed with fold down sides. And having there be a storage area off to one side and keeping the other area clear so I could stick a radiator and such in there.
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... I'd go with one of Uncle Ian's suggestions........Mostly, the interchangeability and availability of the VW stuff will likely save you a lot of time.
I would go with a T3 for several reasons. One is simplicity. There is not a lot that you need to do to mount this engine into your bug. The small amount of fabrication needed is made even more simple - because some of the necessary bracketry has already been made for you. Additionally, this will mount directly to your transmission - no modifications needed. It will also wire in to your existing harness - no additional head scratching required.

In recent years, it would seem that the dual-relief, full flow interchangeable cases are way more abundant than the earlier cases. These have the needed mounts for a "moustache bar" as well as being a dual-relief case with a plate bolted to where you would mount your oil filler neck. Basically, get your hands on the necessary engine tin, fan, alternator bracket etc and you have a T3 motor. Go around to all the VW people in your neck of the woods and I bet you could get everything that you need for almost next to nothing. Be creative, do some horse swapping etc and getting the motor part of your build sorted out will be quite easy.

One of my projects this year will also be a small "shop truck" build. I managed to score a '53 GMC pick-up bed that someone had made into a trailer years ago. Total cost to me: $50. I had to laugh the other day when I saw someone selling basically the same bed for $1500.

For my application, I will use a later case, convert it to a Type III configuration. I will basically weld in the brackets for a moustache bar to the pickup bed and then create vents for the much needed air-flow to keep the motor cool.
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I agree with what they said, keep it VW so there's nothing to modify
There are so many ways you can do the bed, I always liked one I saw that had wooden rails around it that were removable, you can make them short or tall to suit your needs, or just make 2 sets

I always wanted a VW Bug truck, but, it's just a dream


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T3 engine is the dream. I have the interior figured out. Using the rear seat of Gen two or three Camaro or transam since somebody here figured out they make a pretty neat pseudo bench seat and fit perfectly.
If I was able to get a type three motor it would be amazing. If I had the cash I would see about getting a Mexican EFI motor parts with hydraulic lifters and a spin on filter. Then mounting the throttle body flat with type 3 tin.
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